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From: Alfred Molon on 14 Mar 2010 05:07 In article <a8eop5l8hqc8dcg7hvkdcgcok037vrm6pf(a)4ax.com>, GEdstrom(a)PacBell.Net says... > But it takes up space that might be at a premium. You can attach it to the lens reversed, and so it takes very little additional space. -- Alfred Molon ------------------------------ Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/ http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site
From: Bruce on 14 Mar 2010 06:18 On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:25:25 -0600, Tom Hise <nc0o(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >I appreciate all the constructive comments people posted. How a simple >question can turn into an excuse to vilify other posters is beyond my >comprehension. Welcome to Usenet newsgroups. ;-)
From: Robert Coe on 14 Mar 2010 09:00 On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:35:33 -0500, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: : On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:14:50 -0500, Robert Coe <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote: : : >On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:07:00 -0500, "Neil Harrington" <never(a)home.com> wrote: : >: : >: "tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message : >: news:3gmnp5l0j8g43s7o9ikeflf4al1p75uble(a)4ax.com... : >: > On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:27:23 -0500, "Neil Harrington" <never(a)home.com> : >: > wrote: : >: > : >: >>I'm sure Rockwell doesn't always use a tripod, no. The photo of him at the : >: >>front of his site shows him using a Nikon with some monster lens on a : >: >>monopod, one hand on the camera and the other steadying the lens and : >: >>monopod. So that leaves him all out of hands and nothing to shade the lens : >: >>as he says he does. (The image is flipped you'll notice, which gave rise : >: >>to : >: >>Rockwell's b.s. story about a "special left-handed Nikon." He is not : >: >>always : >: >>absolutely believable, which he admits himself.) : >: >> : >: > Left-handed camera? I'm left-handed, and I've never felt that the : >: > ergonomics of a camera were left- or right-hand favored. The only : >: > left-handed device that I own is a circular saw. I've tried : >: > left-handed scissors, but I don't find them much of an advantage. : >: : >: Rockwell's "special left-handed Nikon" was a gag, a flipped image that he : >: made up a story to go with. : >: : >: But I would say most SLRs and other cameras are right-handed, i.e. shutter : >: release and film advance lever (when we still had film advance levers) were : >: on the right. The obvious exception was the old Exakta, which I would call a : >: left-handed camera. : > : >The handedness of a DSLR is a matter of individual opinion. You have to steady : >the lens (and do any necessary lens adjustments) with your left hand, and you : >have to push the shutter button (and most of the other buttons) with your : >right. It's not obvious that the separation of functions favors one handedness : >over the other. It's especially not obvious to me, since I'm nearly : >ambidextrous. : > : >But DSLRs are clearly right-EYED. If you don't want to mash your nose into the : >back of the camera (and risk hitting various buttons you may not want pushed), : >you pretty well have to look through the viewfinder with your right eye. If : >that's your weaker eye, tough luck. : > : : I've spend hours looking for a hat...and haven't found one. I : generally wear a baseball-type cap outdoors all the time because of : the bright Florida sun, and I wear it pulled down over my eyes. I : shoot Nikon and often the camera pushes up against the bill and : interferes with me seeing through the viewfinder. If the flash pops : up, the bill stops it halfway. I'm too old, and too white, to turn my : baseball cap backwards or sideways. : : I'd like to find a hat with a soft brim like the tan one at the top : left of: https://caymaninternationalschool.org/images/hats_lmcf.jpg : but without any printing or logo on it. Can't find one in a man's : size in this area. Try one of the mail-order places like L.L. Bean, Land's End, or Eddie Bauer. They're almost certain to have that or something similar. : I am left-eyed and have no trouble looking through the viewfinder with : my left eye, and I have a humongous nose. Does that make you tend to displace the subject to the right-hand side of the image? I'm right-eyed, and my nose doesn't completely clear the camera, so I apparently tend to look into the viewfinder at an angle. I have to guard against having my subjects displaced to the left (or, equivalently, having nothing of interest in the right-hand side). Bob
From: Savageduck on 14 Mar 2010 09:56 On 2010-03-13 21:35:33 -0800, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> said: > On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:14:50 -0500, Robert Coe <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote: > >> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:07:00 -0500, "Neil Harrington" <never(a)home.com> wrote: >> : >> : "tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message >> : news:3gmnp5l0j8g43s7o9ikeflf4al1p75uble(a)4ax.com... >> : > On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:27:23 -0500, "Neil Harrington" <never(a)home.com> >> : > wrote: >> : > >> : >>I'm sure Rockwell doesn't always use a tripod, no. The photo of him at the >> : >>front of his site shows him using a Nikon with some monster lens on a >> : >>monopod, one hand on the camera and the other steadying the lens and >> : >>monopod. So that leaves him all out of hands and nothing to shade the lens >> : >>as he says he does. (The image is flipped you'll notice, which gave rise >> : >>to >> : >>Rockwell's b.s. story about a "special left-handed Nikon." He is not >> : >>always >> : >>absolutely believable, which he admits himself.) >> : >> >> : > Left-handed camera? I'm left-handed, and I've never felt that the >> : > ergonomics of a camera were left- or right-hand favored. The only >> : > left-handed device that I own is a circular saw. I've tried >> : > left-handed scissors, but I don't find them much of an advantage. >> : >> : Rockwell's "special left-handed Nikon" was a gag, a flipped image that he >> : made up a story to go with. >> : >> : But I would say most SLRs and other cameras are right-handed, i.e. shutter >> : release and film advance lever (when we still had film advance levers) were >> : on the right. The obvious exception was the old Exakta, which I would call a >> : left-handed camera. >> >> The handedness of a DSLR is a matter of individual opinion. You have to steady >> the lens (and do any necessary lens adjustments) with your left hand, and you >> have to push the shutter button (and most of the other buttons) with your >> right. It's not obvious that the separation of functions favors one handedness >> over the other. It's especially not obvious to me, since I'm nearly >> ambidextrous. >> >> But DSLRs are clearly right-EYED. If you don't want to mash your nose into the >> back of the camera (and risk hitting various buttons you may not want pushed), >> you pretty well have to look through the viewfinder with your right eye. If >> that's your weaker eye, tough luck. >> > > I've spend hours looking for a hat...and haven't found one. I > generally wear a baseball-type cap outdoors all the time because of > the bright Florida sun, and I wear it pulled down over my eyes. I > shoot Nikon and often the camera pushes up against the bill and > interferes with me seeing through the viewfinder. If the flash pops > up, the bill stops it halfway. I'm too old, and too white, to turn my > baseball cap backwards or sideways. > > I'd like to find a hat with a soft brim like the tan one at the top > left of: https://caymaninternationalschool.org/images/hats_lmcf.jpg > but without any printing or logo on it. Can't find one in a man's > size in this area. > > I am left-eyed and have no trouble looking through the viewfinder with > my left eye, and I have a humongous nose. Here are a few for you Tony; http://www.rei.com/product/798762 http://www.american-armynavy.com/boonie-ODRS.htm http://www.bdu.com/boonies-cotton-ripstop.html I use a $9.99 OD ripstop boonie hat; http://www.bdu.com/F550155330.html -- Regards, Savageduck
From: tony cooper on 14 Mar 2010 11:23
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 06:56:02 -0700, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote: >On 2010-03-13 21:35:33 -0800, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> said: > >> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:14:50 -0500, Robert Coe <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:07:00 -0500, "Neil Harrington" <never(a)home.com> wrote: >>> : >>> : "tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message >>> : news:3gmnp5l0j8g43s7o9ikeflf4al1p75uble(a)4ax.com... >>> : > On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:27:23 -0500, "Neil Harrington" <never(a)home.com> >>> : > wrote: >>> : > >>> : >>I'm sure Rockwell doesn't always use a tripod, no. The photo of him at the >>> : >>front of his site shows him using a Nikon with some monster lens on a >>> : >>monopod, one hand on the camera and the other steadying the lens and >>> : >>monopod. So that leaves him all out of hands and nothing to shade the lens >>> : >>as he says he does. (The image is flipped you'll notice, which gave rise >>> : >>to >>> : >>Rockwell's b.s. story about a "special left-handed Nikon." He is not >>> : >>always >>> : >>absolutely believable, which he admits himself.) >>> : >> >>> : > Left-handed camera? I'm left-handed, and I've never felt that the >>> : > ergonomics of a camera were left- or right-hand favored. The only >>> : > left-handed device that I own is a circular saw. I've tried >>> : > left-handed scissors, but I don't find them much of an advantage. >>> : >>> : Rockwell's "special left-handed Nikon" was a gag, a flipped image that he >>> : made up a story to go with. >>> : >>> : But I would say most SLRs and other cameras are right-handed, i.e. shutter >>> : release and film advance lever (when we still had film advance levers) were >>> : on the right. The obvious exception was the old Exakta, which I would call a >>> : left-handed camera. >>> >>> The handedness of a DSLR is a matter of individual opinion. You have to steady >>> the lens (and do any necessary lens adjustments) with your left hand, and you >>> have to push the shutter button (and most of the other buttons) with your >>> right. It's not obvious that the separation of functions favors one handedness >>> over the other. It's especially not obvious to me, since I'm nearly >>> ambidextrous. >>> >>> But DSLRs are clearly right-EYED. If you don't want to mash your nose into the >>> back of the camera (and risk hitting various buttons you may not want pushed), >>> you pretty well have to look through the viewfinder with your right eye. If >>> that's your weaker eye, tough luck. >>> >> >> I've spend hours looking for a hat...and haven't found one. I >> generally wear a baseball-type cap outdoors all the time because of >> the bright Florida sun, and I wear it pulled down over my eyes. I >> shoot Nikon and often the camera pushes up against the bill and >> interferes with me seeing through the viewfinder. If the flash pops >> up, the bill stops it halfway. I'm too old, and too white, to turn my >> baseball cap backwards or sideways. >> >> I'd like to find a hat with a soft brim like the tan one at the top >> left of: https://caymaninternationalschool.org/images/hats_lmcf.jpg >> but without any printing or logo on it. Can't find one in a man's >> size in this area. >> >> I am left-eyed and have no trouble looking through the viewfinder with >> my left eye, and I have a humongous nose. > >Here are a few for you Tony; >http://www.rei.com/product/798762 >http://www.american-armynavy.com/boonie-ODRS.htm >http://www.bdu.com/boonies-cotton-ripstop.html > >I use a $9.99 OD ripstop boonie hat; >http://www.bdu.com/F550155330.html That's not what I want. I have a "boonie", but I only wear it when I only need sun protection. The wide brim bothers me when I'm photographing. The hat I linked to covers my bald pate and gives me some eye shading but doesn't bump into the camera. Also, since I spend a lot of time doing "street" photography, I like to be fairly inconspicuous. I don't want to look like Harrison Ford from a distance. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |