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From: Savageduck on 14 Mar 2010 13:05 On 2010-03-14 08:23:43 -0700, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> said: > On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 06:56:02 -0700, Savageduck > <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote: > >> On 2010-03-13 21:35:33 -0800, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> said: >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> I've spend hours looking for a hat...and haven't found one. I >>> generally wear a baseball-type cap outdoors all the time because of >>> the bright Florida sun, and I wear it pulled down over my eyes. I >>> shoot Nikon and often the camera pushes up against the bill and >>> interferes with me seeing through the viewfinder. If the flash pops >>> up, the bill stops it halfway. I'm too old, and too white, to turn my >>> baseball cap backwards or sideways. >>> >>> I'd like to find a hat with a soft brim like the tan one at the top >>> left of: https://caymaninternationalschool.org/images/hats_lmcf.jpg >>> but without any printing or logo on it. Can't find one in a man's >>> size in this area. >>> >>> I am left-eyed and have no trouble looking through the viewfinder with >>> my left eye, and I have a humongous nose. >> >> Here are a few for you Tony; >> http://www.rei.com/product/798762 >> http://www.american-armynavy.com/boonie-ODRS.htm >> http://www.bdu.com/boonies-cotton-ripstop.html >> >> I use a $9.99 OD ripstop boonie hat; >> http://www.bdu.com/F550155330.html > > That's not what I want. I have a "boonie", but I only wear it when I > only need sun protection. The wide brim bothers me when I'm > photographing. The hat I linked to covers my bald pate and gives me > some eye shading but doesn't bump into the camera. > > Also, since I spend a lot of time doing "street" photography, I like > to be fairly inconspicuous. I don't want to look like Harrison Ford > from a distance. OK. I must be missing something here, I certainly wasn't thinking of an Indiana Jones fedora. That would be as bad as a peaked cap. I have a similar problem to you when shooting with a baseball cap. The peak pushes all over the place, with the cap eventually being pushed off my head. A soft brimmed hat such as boonie gives me Sun protection & shade, with the benefit of the brim just crushing up against the camera. The soft brimmed hat you linked to certainly does the same. I understand wanting to be a little more discrete in the urban setting so, along with that first link I suggested, I give you; http://www.rei.com/product/798772 http://www.rei.com/product/798766 and < http://www.coolibar.com/02509.html?source=googlebase&cvsfa=1739&cvsfe=2&cvsfhu=3032353039 > or < http://www.villagehatshop.com/henschel-canvas-booney.html > or < http://www.columbia.com/mens-hats/men-accessories-hatsHeadwear,default,sc.html?sz=1&start=2 > < http://www.columbia.com/mens-hats/men-accessories-hatsHeadwear,default,sc.html?sz=1&start=6 > -- Regards, Savageduck
From: Peter on 14 Mar 2010 13:01 "tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:3odop5psql3infkb5mebi7grheonf10thu(a)4ax.com... > On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:07:00 -0500, "Neil Harrington" <never(a)home.com> > wrote: > >> >>"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message >>news:3gmnp5l0j8g43s7o9ikeflf4al1p75uble(a)4ax.com... >>> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:27:23 -0500, "Neil Harrington" <never(a)home.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>I'm sure Rockwell doesn't always use a tripod, no. The photo of him at >>>>the >>>>front of his site shows him using a Nikon with some monster lens on a >>>>monopod, one hand on the camera and the other steadying the lens and >>>>monopod. So that leaves him all out of hands and nothing to shade the >>>>lens >>>>as he says he does. (The image is flipped you'll notice, which gave rise >>>>to >>>>Rockwell's b.s. story about a "special left-handed Nikon." He is not >>>>always >>>>absolutely believable, which he admits himself.) >>>> >>> Left-handed camera? I'm left-handed, and I've never felt that the >>> ergonomics of a camera were left- or right-hand favored. The only >>> left-handed device that I own is a circular saw. I've tried >>> left-handed scissors, but I don't find them much of an advantage. >> >>Rockwell's "special left-handed Nikon" was a gag, a flipped image that he >>made up a story to go with. >> >>But I would say most SLRs and other cameras are right-handed, i.e. shutter >>release and film advance lever (when we still had film advance levers) >>were >>on the right. The obvious exception was the old Exakta, which I would call >>a >>left-handed camera. >> >>If you're left-handed you have just adapted to a right-handed world, as >>most >>lefties do, and I suppose that's why you don't notice the handedness of >>such >>things. > > There are certain things that I can only do with my left hand > (writing, using shop tools, using a spoon or fork), but depressing a > shutter release is not a matter of handedness. On a film camera, I > never felt it was awkward to advance the film with my right thumb. > > When on manual focus, focusing is easier with my left hand so holding > the camera in right hand is natural. > > The most difficult thing for a leftie to do? Pour anything out of a > punchbowl dipper or a pitcher with the spout on the side. The worst > place to be? In a restaurant booth seated next to the wall and next > to a fat rightie with flying elbows. > > I know the feeling. I am a natural leftie who was forced to write as a righty. I bowl, shoot pool, play darts and fire a rifle leftie, but play golf both ways. -- Peter
From: Irwell on 14 Mar 2010 13:14 On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:35:33 -0500, tony cooper wrote: > > I'd like to find a hat with a soft brim like the tan one at the top > left of: https://caymaninternationalschool.org/images/hats_lmcf.jpg > but without any printing or logo on it. Can't find one in a man's > size in this area. > My dermatologist gave me one like that pictured as a free sample, it did have some drug company's logo on it, though.
From: tony cooper on 14 Mar 2010 17:09 On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:01:11 -0400, "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: >"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message >news:3odop5psql3infkb5mebi7grheonf10thu(a)4ax.com... >> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:07:00 -0500, "Neil Harrington" <never(a)home.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>>"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message >>>news:3gmnp5l0j8g43s7o9ikeflf4al1p75uble(a)4ax.com... >>>> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:27:23 -0500, "Neil Harrington" <never(a)home.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>I'm sure Rockwell doesn't always use a tripod, no. The photo of him at >>>>>the >>>>>front of his site shows him using a Nikon with some monster lens on a >>>>>monopod, one hand on the camera and the other steadying the lens and >>>>>monopod. So that leaves him all out of hands and nothing to shade the >>>>>lens >>>>>as he says he does. (The image is flipped you'll notice, which gave rise >>>>>to >>>>>Rockwell's b.s. story about a "special left-handed Nikon." He is not >>>>>always >>>>>absolutely believable, which he admits himself.) >>>>> >>>> Left-handed camera? I'm left-handed, and I've never felt that the >>>> ergonomics of a camera were left- or right-hand favored. The only >>>> left-handed device that I own is a circular saw. I've tried >>>> left-handed scissors, but I don't find them much of an advantage. >>> >>>Rockwell's "special left-handed Nikon" was a gag, a flipped image that he >>>made up a story to go with. >>> >>>But I would say most SLRs and other cameras are right-handed, i.e. shutter >>>release and film advance lever (when we still had film advance levers) >>>were >>>on the right. The obvious exception was the old Exakta, which I would call >>>a >>>left-handed camera. >>> >>>If you're left-handed you have just adapted to a right-handed world, as >>>most >>>lefties do, and I suppose that's why you don't notice the handedness of >>>such >>>things. >> >> There are certain things that I can only do with my left hand >> (writing, using shop tools, using a spoon or fork), but depressing a >> shutter release is not a matter of handedness. On a film camera, I >> never felt it was awkward to advance the film with my right thumb. >> >> When on manual focus, focusing is easier with my left hand so holding >> the camera in right hand is natural. >> >> The most difficult thing for a leftie to do? Pour anything out of a >> punchbowl dipper or a pitcher with the spout on the side. The worst >> place to be? In a restaurant booth seated next to the wall and next >> to a fat rightie with flying elbows. >> >> > > >I know the feeling. I am a natural leftie who was forced to write as a >righty. I bowl, shoot pool, play darts and fire a rifle leftie, but play >golf both ways. I play golf one way: badly. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: tony cooper on 14 Mar 2010 17:15
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 10:05:27 -0700, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote: >On 2010-03-14 08:23:43 -0700, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> said: > >> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 06:56:02 -0700, Savageduck >> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote: >> >>> On 2010-03-13 21:35:33 -0800, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> said: >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> I've spend hours looking for a hat...and haven't found one. I >>>> generally wear a baseball-type cap outdoors all the time because of >>>> the bright Florida sun, and I wear it pulled down over my eyes. I >>>> shoot Nikon and often the camera pushes up against the bill and >>>> interferes with me seeing through the viewfinder. If the flash pops >>>> up, the bill stops it halfway. I'm too old, and too white, to turn my >>>> baseball cap backwards or sideways. >>>> >>>> I'd like to find a hat with a soft brim like the tan one at the top >>>> left of: https://caymaninternationalschool.org/images/hats_lmcf.jpg >>>> but without any printing or logo on it. Can't find one in a man's >>>> size in this area. >>>> >>>> I am left-eyed and have no trouble looking through the viewfinder with >>>> my left eye, and I have a humongous nose. >>> >>> Here are a few for you Tony; >>> http://www.rei.com/product/798762 >>> http://www.american-armynavy.com/boonie-ODRS.htm >>> http://www.bdu.com/boonies-cotton-ripstop.html >>> >>> I use a $9.99 OD ripstop boonie hat; >>> http://www.bdu.com/F550155330.html >> >> That's not what I want. I have a "boonie", but I only wear it when I >> only need sun protection. The wide brim bothers me when I'm >> photographing. The hat I linked to covers my bald pate and gives me >> some eye shading but doesn't bump into the camera. >> >> Also, since I spend a lot of time doing "street" photography, I like >> to be fairly inconspicuous. I don't want to look like Harrison Ford >> from a distance. > >OK. I must be missing something here, I certainly wasn't thinking of an >Indiana Jones fedora. That would be as bad as a peaked cap. Does Indiana Jones wear a fedora? Never saw the movie. I thought he wore something like a Tilley hat. Maybe that's that Australian guy with the big knife. >I have a similar problem to you when shooting with a baseball cap. The >peak pushes all over the place, with the cap eventually being pushed >off my head. > >A soft brimmed hat such as boonie gives me Sun protection & shade, with >the benefit of the brim just crushing up against the camera. > >The soft brimmed hat you linked to certainly does the same. I >understand wanting to be a little more discrete in the urban setting >so, along with that first link I suggested, I give you; >http://www.rei.com/product/798772 That's what I want...a "bucket hat". Now find one in a local store for me. I like to try things on. I want a plain color with no design. I'm sure there's some store in this area that carries them, but I haven't found one yet. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |