From: GogoJF on 18 May 2010 16:18 What is the meaning of c? Whether one believes that light is finite and constant and travels at c- or whether light is to be believed to be instant- is regardless- because the reason why the speed of light c travels at 300,000 km/s and not 200,000 km/s, or 100,000 km/s is a separate issue. Why this particular speed of c? 1) Is this merely the limit of man's measurably? 2) Is there some indication of c on a planetary or stellar scale, in terms of our inertia? 3) Is this speed human friendly? In other words, would we as humans be different if c were a different constant speed? Would we be the same if c were not constant?
From: BURT on 18 May 2010 16:20 C is the speed limit. There is nothing faster to measure. Mitch Raemsch
From: GogoJF on 18 May 2010 16:37 On May 18, 3:20 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > C is the speed limit. There is nothing faster to measure. > > Mitch Raemsch Burt, my question was hypothetical. What if phenomena were faster than c. Would we be able to measure it? What is the limit of our measure ability?
From: GogoJF on 18 May 2010 16:40 On May 18, 3:37 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 18, 3:20 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > C is the speed limit. There is nothing faster to measure. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > Burt, my question was hypothetical. What if phenomena were faster > than c. Would we be able to measure it? What is the limit of our > measure ability? For instance, what about a sweeping searchlight?
From: dlzc on 18 May 2010 17:34 Dear GogoJF: On May 18, 1:18 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > What is the meaning of c? Whether one believes > that light is finite and constant and travels at > c- or whether light is to be believed to be > instant- is regardless- because the reason why > the speed of light c travels at 300,000 km/s and > not 200,000 km/s, or 100,000 km/s is a separate > issue. > > Why this particular speed of c? 299,792,458.6 m/sec was the last measured value by the US-NBS, and had been "honing in" on such a value for nearly 20 years, once they had moved from a physical rod (some fraction of the assumed equatorial circumference of Earth) to characteristic wavelengths of light. > 1) Is this merely the limit of man's measurably? No, we could measure "incredibly close to infinite", or "inclusive of zero". > 2) Is there some indication of c on a > planetary or stellar scale, in terms of our > inertia? Correlates well with the conversion of rest mass to energy: E = mc^2. > 3) Is this speed human friendly? In other > words, would we as humans be different if c > were a different constant speed? Would we > be the same if c were not constant? c is tied up in the fine structure constant, and it has been observed to have changed by about 1 part in 10^8 in the displayed history of the Universe (about 13 billion years or so). Since our size is tied to c, and our atoms' sizes are tied to c (and nucleus, and rulers), then if c changed *exclusive of the other physical constants in the fine structure constant*, we'd know it. If the balance is maintained and changes slowly (as it has in the past), we wouldn't. And said change in c cannot explain Universal expansion, nor acceleration of expansion (and agree with observation). David A. Smith
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