From: Carl on 28 Apr 2010 16:25 On Apr 27, 4:25 pm, "Tim Meddick" <timmedd...(a)o2.co.uk> wrote: > No, you did it correctly. > > I don't understand it... > > Admittedly, I am a little "hazy" on which command does what, but having executed both > and in both and reverse order, *one* or other of the commands should have : > > FIXBOOT > Re-written the bootsector - the beginning sector (sector 0) of a partition. > > FIXMBR > Re-written the Master Boot Record (MBR) - the beginning sector of a hard-drive > (sector 0) which contains the partition table and the loading code of the active O.S. > > ...so would have thought that this last command would have over-written the LINUX > "Grub" loading code!!!??? > > If we were dealing with a PC and not a NetBook - I would have suggested starting with > an M$-DOS bootdisk (floppy) and executing the program FDISK.EXE (same argument with > using a PEbuild boot cd) > > With which you could have inspected the layout of partitions and made WINDOWS the > *active* partition. > > The equivalent in the Recovery Console is the command : DISKPART > > Unfortunately, you can't make partitions "active" with this - only ADD or DELETE > them. > > Typing : DISKPART will probably only confirm what I believe has happened here. > > 1. You deleted the UBUNTU partition. > > 2. The WINDOWS partition still exists intact. > > 3. The MBR written with the "Grub" loading-code stubbornly refuses to be repaired > with the FIXMBR / FIXBOOT commands. > > BTW - I think I remember now the order I used the commands : > > FIXMBR > FIXBOOT C: > > However, the DISKPART command may reveal some useful information. > > If you do use it, copy the resultant partition information down and post it here. > > == > > Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) > > "Carl" <carlhamm...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:0461e6b1-9f07-42a2-b5e1-da8daaf4969c(a)r1g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > On Apr 24, 9:50 am, Carl <carlhamm...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
From: Carl on 28 Apr 2010 16:33 On Apr 27, 4:25 pm, "Tim Meddick" <timmedd...(a)o2.co.uk> wrote: > No, you did it correctly. > > I don't understand it... > > Admittedly, I am a little "hazy" on which command does what, but having executed both > and in both and reverse order, *one* or other of the commands should have : > > FIXBOOT > Re-written the bootsector - the beginning sector (sector 0) of a partition. > > FIXMBR > Re-written the Master Boot Record (MBR) - the beginning sector of a hard-drive > (sector 0) which contains the partition table and the loading code of the active O.S. > > ...so would have thought that this last command would have over-written the LINUX > "Grub" loading code!!!??? > > If we were dealing with a PC and not a NetBook - I would have suggested starting with > an M$-DOS bootdisk (floppy) and executing the program FDISK.EXE (same argument with > using a PEbuild boot cd) > > With which you could have inspected the layout of partitions and made WINDOWS the > *active* partition. > > The equivalent in the Recovery Console is the command : DISKPART > > Unfortunately, you can't make partitions "active" with this - only ADD or DELETE > them. > > Typing : DISKPART will probably only confirm what I believe has happened here. > > 1. You deleted the UBUNTU partition. > > 2. The WINDOWS partition still exists intact. > > 3. The MBR written with the "Grub" loading-code stubbornly refuses to be repaired > with the FIXMBR / FIXBOOT commands. > > BTW - I think I remember now the order I used the commands : > > FIXMBR > FIXBOOT C: > > However, the DISKPART command may reveal some useful information. > > If you do use it, copy the resultant partition information down and post it here. > > == > > Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) > Hi Tim - Ran DISKPART. Here is what it returned: 152626 MB Disk 0 at Id 0 on atapi [MBR] -: Partition1 <EISA Utilities> 6150 MB < 3147 MB free> C: Partition2 <NTFS> 68653 MB < 58942 MB free> E: Partition3 <NTFS> 39622 MB < 35647 MB free> Unpartitioned space 38194 MB 957 MB Disk on disk [MPR]
From: Carl on 28 Apr 2010 16:40 On Apr 27, 4:25 pm, "Tim Meddick" <timmedd...(a)o2.co.uk> wrote: > No, you did it correctly. > > I don't understand it... > > Admittedly, I am a little "hazy" on which command does what, but having executed both > and in both and reverse order, *one* or other of the commands should have : > > FIXBOOT > Re-written the bootsector - the beginning sector (sector 0) of a partition. > > FIXMBR > Re-written the Master Boot Record (MBR) - the beginning sector of a hard-drive > (sector 0) which contains the partition table and the loading code of the active O.S. > > ...so would have thought that this last command would have over-written the LINUX > "Grub" loading code!!!??? > > If we were dealing with a PC and not a NetBook - I would have suggested starting with > an M$-DOS bootdisk (floppy) and executing the program FDISK.EXE (same argument with > using a PEbuild boot cd) > > With which you could have inspected the layout of partitions and made WINDOWS the > *active* partition. > > The equivalent in the Recovery Console is the command : DISKPART > > Unfortunately, you can't make partitions "active" with this - only ADD or DELETE > them. > > Typing : DISKPART will probably only confirm what I believe has happened here. > > 1. You deleted the UBUNTU partition. > > 2. The WINDOWS partition still exists intact. > > 3. The MBR written with the "Grub" loading-code stubbornly refuses to be repaired > with the FIXMBR / FIXBOOT commands. > > BTW - I think I remember now the order I used the commands : > > FIXMBR > FIXBOOT C: > > However, the DISKPART command may reveal some useful information. > > If you do use it, copy the resultant partition information down and post it here. > Hi Tim - Ran the DISKPART command and got this: Here is what it returned: 152626 MB Disk 0 at Id 0 on atapi [MBR] -: Partition1 <EISA Utilities> 6150 MB < 3147 MB free> C: Partition2 <NTFS> 68653 MB < 58942 MB free> E: Partition3 <NTFS> 39622 MB < 35647 MB free> Unpartitioned space 38194 MB 957 MB Disk on disk [MBR] D: Partition1 <KINGSTON> [FAT] 962 MB < 951 MB free> ESC=Cancel D=Delete Partition This provide any insights???
From: Carl on 28 Apr 2010 16:46 On Apr 27, 5:25 pm, John John - MVP <audetw...(a)nbnot.nb.ca> wrote: > Carl wrote: > > Hi Tim - > > > Back home. Started the netbook with the Windows Recovery flash drive.. > > > At the prompt > typed FIXMBR C; and hit Enter > > No text appeared, it simply brought me back to the prompt > > > You didn't do it right, FIXMBR uses the device name rather than the > drive letter, for example: > > fixmbr \device\harddisk0 > > Note the double "dd" in the device name (hard+disk) > > To get a list of devices use the MAP command. > > If the syntax is correct you will get a warning message and you will be > prompted to confirm the action. If you answer Y (yes) to confirm the > action you will receive a message stating that a new master boot record > was successfully written. If the syntax is incorrect you will be > returned to the > prompt without any message of any kind. > > You can also run the FIXMBR command without specifying any device and > the MBR will be written to the boot device, here again you will receive > a warning message and be asked to confirm the action. > > Fixmbr will surely dislodge the GRUB loader from the MBR, you just have > to use the proper syntax. > > John Hi John - Thank you for weighing in. The MAP command returned this: ? NTFS 6150MB \Device\Harddisk0\Partition1 C: NTFS 68653MB \Device\Harddisk0\Partition2 E: NTFS 39621MB \Device\Harddisk0\Partition3 D: FAT16 963MB \Device\Harddisk1\Partition1 What's the next step, gentlemen? Many thanks, once again, for your time and patience. Carl
From: Tim Meddick on 28 Apr 2010 17:36
I rarely use either the MAP or the DISPART command and if I have a major problem, similar to yours, I always use an M$-DOS boot disk. The difference being that the DOS command FDISK - does return volume labels (where they exist) on partitions. The thing is, without knowing which partition is which - you might be deleting the netbook's recovery partition - should it have one. My best guess would be : -: Partition1 <EISA Utilities> 6150 MB = RECOVERY PARTITION C: Partition2 <NTFS> 68653 MB = WINDOWS PARTITION E: Partition3 <NTFS> 39622 MB = UBUNTU PARTITION D: Partition1 <KINGSTON> [FAT] = YOUR USB DRIVE ......so, you could try deleting E: Partition3 <NTFS> 39622 MB ....(unless you know different - that this is NOT the UBUNTU partition!) My evidence for this is that as you are actually logged in to C:\Windows while you are running Recovery Console, the partition before it must have been there before or at the installation of the C: partition - it has no drive-letter associated with it, so it's probably a hidden partition - usually this means the recovery partition. That just leaves Partition3 (E:) So, as I said, unless you know differently, delete Partition3 (E:) using DISKPART then reboot back into the Recovery Console and check it has been deleted using DISKPART again. Then try : FIXMBR FIXBOOT C: ....once more...... At the end of the day, since I am 99% sure you have a (intact) recovery partition, as you are booting you should be seeing a message at the bottom of the screen, something like "Press F10 for recovery options " . However, should this be the case, and you use the NetBook's in-built recovery option - it will copy the factory-state Windows installation back to the C: drive - over-writing your old XP and all the data (music & videos) you may have stored there. == Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) "Carl" <carlhammel1(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:dc6c3f4c-913a-4c0e-9eec-5b1e4add8233(a)y36g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... On Apr 27, 5:25 pm, John John - MVP <audetw...(a)nbnot.nb.ca> wrote: > Carl wrote: > > Hi Tim - > > > Back home. Started the netbook with the Windows Recovery flash drive. > > > At the prompt > typed FIXMBR C; and hit Enter > > No text appeared, it simply brought me back to the prompt > > > You didn't do it right, FIXMBR uses the device name rather than the > drive letter, for example: > > fixmbr \device\harddisk0 > > Note the double "dd" in the device name (hard+disk) > > To get a list of devices use the MAP command. > > If the syntax is correct you will get a warning message and you will be > prompted to confirm the action. If you answer Y (yes) to confirm the > action you will receive a message stating that a new master boot record > was successfully written. If the syntax is incorrect you will be > returned to the > prompt without any message of any kind. > > You can also run the FIXMBR command without specifying any device and > the MBR will be written to the boot device, here again you will receive > a warning message and be asked to confirm the action. > > Fixmbr will surely dislodge the GRUB loader from the MBR, you just have > to use the proper syntax. > > John Hi John - Thank you for weighing in. The MAP command returned this: ? NTFS 6150MB \Device\Harddisk0\Partition1 C: NTFS 68653MB \Device\Harddisk0\Partition2 E: NTFS 39621MB \Device\Harddisk0\Partition3 D: FAT16 963MB \Device\Harddisk1\Partition1 What's the next step, gentlemen? Many thanks, once again, for your time and patience. Carl |