From: Carl on
On Apr 27, 4:25 pm, "Tim Meddick" <timmedd...(a)o2.co.uk> wrote:
> No, you did it correctly.
>
> I don't understand it...
>
> Admittedly, I am a little "hazy" on which command does what, but having executed both
> and in both and reverse order, *one* or other of the commands should have :
>
> FIXBOOT
> Re-written the bootsector - the beginning sector (sector 0) of a partition.
>
> FIXMBR
> Re-written the Master Boot Record (MBR) - the beginning sector of a hard-drive
> (sector 0) which contains the partition table and the loading code of the active O.S.
>
> ...so would have thought that this last command would have over-written the LINUX
> "Grub" loading code!!!???
>
> If we were dealing with a PC and not a NetBook - I would have suggested starting with
> an M$-DOS bootdisk (floppy) and executing the program FDISK.EXE (same argument with
> using a PEbuild boot cd)
>
> With which you could have inspected the layout of partitions and made WINDOWS the
> *active* partition.
>
> The equivalent in the Recovery Console is the command :  DISKPART
>
> Unfortunately, you can't make partitions "active" with this - only  ADD  or  DELETE
> them.
>
> Typing :  DISKPART  will probably only confirm what I believe has happened here.
>
> 1. You deleted the UBUNTU partition.
>
> 2. The WINDOWS partition still exists intact.
>
> 3. The MBR written with the "Grub" loading-code stubbornly refuses to be repaired
> with the FIXMBR / FIXBOOT commands.
>
> BTW - I think I remember now the order I used the commands :
>
> FIXMBR
> FIXBOOT C:
>
> However, the DISKPART command may reveal some useful information.
>
> If you do use it, copy the resultant partition information down and post it here.
>
> ==
>
> Cheers,    Tim Meddick,    Peckham, London.    :-)
>
> "Carl" <carlhamm...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0461e6b1-9f07-42a2-b5e1-da8daaf4969c(a)r1g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 24, 9:50 am, Carl <carlhamm...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
From: Carl on
On Apr 27, 4:25 pm, "Tim Meddick" <timmedd...(a)o2.co.uk> wrote:
> No, you did it correctly.
>
> I don't understand it...
>
> Admittedly, I am a little "hazy" on which command does what, but having executed both
> and in both and reverse order, *one* or other of the commands should have :
>
> FIXBOOT
> Re-written the bootsector - the beginning sector (sector 0) of a partition.
>
> FIXMBR
> Re-written the Master Boot Record (MBR) - the beginning sector of a hard-drive
> (sector 0) which contains the partition table and the loading code of the active O.S.
>
> ...so would have thought that this last command would have over-written the LINUX
> "Grub" loading code!!!???
>
> If we were dealing with a PC and not a NetBook - I would have suggested starting with
> an M$-DOS bootdisk (floppy) and executing the program FDISK.EXE (same argument with
> using a PEbuild boot cd)
>
> With which you could have inspected the layout of partitions and made WINDOWS the
> *active* partition.
>
> The equivalent in the Recovery Console is the command :  DISKPART
>
> Unfortunately, you can't make partitions "active" with this - only  ADD  or  DELETE
> them.
>
> Typing :  DISKPART  will probably only confirm what I believe has happened here.
>
> 1. You deleted the UBUNTU partition.
>
> 2. The WINDOWS partition still exists intact.
>
> 3. The MBR written with the "Grub" loading-code stubbornly refuses to be repaired
> with the FIXMBR / FIXBOOT commands.
>
> BTW - I think I remember now the order I used the commands :
>
> FIXMBR
> FIXBOOT C:
>
> However, the DISKPART command may reveal some useful information.
>
> If you do use it, copy the resultant partition information down and post it here.
>
> ==
>
> Cheers,    Tim Meddick,    Peckham, London.    :-)
>
Hi Tim -

Ran DISKPART.

Here is what it returned:
152626 MB Disk 0 at Id 0 on atapi [MBR]
-: Partition1 <EISA Utilities> 6150 MB < 3147 MB free>
C: Partition2 <NTFS> 68653 MB < 58942 MB free>
E: Partition3 <NTFS> 39622 MB < 35647 MB free>
Unpartitioned space 38194 MB
957 MB Disk on disk [MPR]
From: Carl on
On Apr 27, 4:25 pm, "Tim Meddick" <timmedd...(a)o2.co.uk> wrote:
> No, you did it correctly.
>
> I don't understand it...
>
> Admittedly, I am a little "hazy" on which command does what, but having executed both
> and in both and reverse order, *one* or other of the commands should have :
>
> FIXBOOT
> Re-written the bootsector - the beginning sector (sector 0) of a partition.
>
> FIXMBR
> Re-written the Master Boot Record (MBR) - the beginning sector of a hard-drive
> (sector 0) which contains the partition table and the loading code of the active O.S.
>
> ...so would have thought that this last command would have over-written the LINUX
> "Grub" loading code!!!???
>
> If we were dealing with a PC and not a NetBook - I would have suggested starting with
> an M$-DOS bootdisk (floppy) and executing the program FDISK.EXE (same argument with
> using a PEbuild boot cd)
>
> With which you could have inspected the layout of partitions and made WINDOWS the
> *active* partition.
>
> The equivalent in the Recovery Console is the command :  DISKPART
>
> Unfortunately, you can't make partitions "active" with this - only  ADD  or  DELETE
> them.
>
> Typing :  DISKPART  will probably only confirm what I believe has happened here.
>
> 1. You deleted the UBUNTU partition.
>
> 2. The WINDOWS partition still exists intact.
>
> 3. The MBR written with the "Grub" loading-code stubbornly refuses to be repaired
> with the FIXMBR / FIXBOOT commands.
>
> BTW - I think I remember now the order I used the commands :
>
> FIXMBR
> FIXBOOT C:
>
> However, the DISKPART command may reveal some useful information.
>
> If you do use it, copy the resultant partition information down and post it here.
>

Hi Tim -

Ran the DISKPART command and got this:

Here is what it returned:
152626 MB Disk 0 at Id 0 on atapi [MBR]
-:   Partition1 <EISA Utilities>      6150 MB  <   3147 MB free>
C:  Partition2 <NTFS>                68653 MB < 58942 MB free>
E:  Partition3 <NTFS>                 39622 MB < 35647 MB free>
      Unpartitioned space               38194 MB
957  MB Disk on disk  [MBR]
D: Partition1 <KINGSTON> [FAT] 962 MB < 951 MB free>

ESC=Cancel D=Delete Partition

This provide any insights???
From: Carl on
On Apr 27, 5:25 pm, John John - MVP <audetw...(a)nbnot.nb.ca> wrote:
> Carl wrote:
> > Hi Tim -
>
> > Back home.  Started the netbook with the Windows Recovery flash drive..
>
> > At the prompt > typed FIXMBR C; and hit Enter
> > No text appeared, it simply brought me back to the prompt >
>
> You didn't do it right, FIXMBR uses the device name rather than the
> drive letter, for example:
>
> fixmbr \device\harddisk0
>
> Note the double "dd" in the device name (hard+disk)
>
> To get a list of devices use the MAP command.
>
> If the syntax is correct you will get a warning message and you will be
> prompted to confirm the action.  If you answer Y (yes) to confirm the
> action you will receive a message stating that a new master boot record
> was successfully written.  If the syntax is incorrect you will be
> returned to the > prompt without any message of any kind.
>
> You can also run the FIXMBR command without specifying any device and
> the MBR will be written to the boot device, here again you will receive
> a warning message and be asked to confirm the action.
>
> Fixmbr will surely dislodge the GRUB loader from the MBR, you just have
> to use the proper syntax.
>
> John

Hi John -

Thank you for weighing in.

The MAP command returned this:

? NTFS 6150MB \Device\Harddisk0\Partition1
C: NTFS 68653MB \Device\Harddisk0\Partition2
E: NTFS 39621MB \Device\Harddisk0\Partition3
D: FAT16 963MB \Device\Harddisk1\Partition1

What's the next step, gentlemen?

Many thanks, once again, for your time and patience.

Carl
From: Tim Meddick on
I rarely use either the MAP or the DISPART command and if I have a major problem,
similar to yours, I always use an M$-DOS boot disk.

The difference being that the DOS command FDISK - does return volume labels (where
they exist) on partitions.

The thing is, without knowing which partition is which - you might be deleting the
netbook's recovery partition - should it have one.

My best guess would be :

-: Partition1 <EISA Utilities> 6150 MB = RECOVERY PARTITION
C: Partition2 <NTFS> 68653 MB = WINDOWS PARTITION
E: Partition3 <NTFS> 39622 MB = UBUNTU PARTITION
D: Partition1 <KINGSTON> [FAT] = YOUR USB DRIVE

......so, you could try deleting E: Partition3 <NTFS> 39622 MB ....(unless you know
different - that this is NOT the UBUNTU partition!)

My evidence for this is that as you are actually logged in to C:\Windows while you
are running Recovery Console, the partition before it must have been there before or
at the installation of the C: partition - it has no drive-letter associated with it,
so it's probably a hidden partition - usually this means the recovery partition.
That just leaves Partition3 (E:)

So, as I said, unless you know differently, delete Partition3 (E:) using DISKPART
then reboot back into the Recovery Console and check it has been deleted using
DISKPART again.

Then try :

FIXMBR
FIXBOOT C:

....once more......

At the end of the day, since I am 99% sure you have a (intact) recovery partition, as
you are booting you should be seeing a message at the bottom of the screen, something
like "Press F10 for recovery options " .

However, should this be the case, and you use the NetBook's in-built recovery
option - it will copy the factory-state Windows installation back to the C: drive -
over-writing your old XP and all the data (music & videos) you may have stored there.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"Carl" <carlhammel1(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:dc6c3f4c-913a-4c0e-9eec-5b1e4add8233(a)y36g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 27, 5:25 pm, John John - MVP <audetw...(a)nbnot.nb.ca> wrote:
> Carl wrote:
> > Hi Tim -
>
> > Back home. Started the netbook with the Windows Recovery flash drive.
>
> > At the prompt > typed FIXMBR C; and hit Enter
> > No text appeared, it simply brought me back to the prompt >
>
> You didn't do it right, FIXMBR uses the device name rather than the
> drive letter, for example:
>
> fixmbr \device\harddisk0
>
> Note the double "dd" in the device name (hard+disk)
>
> To get a list of devices use the MAP command.
>
> If the syntax is correct you will get a warning message and you will be
> prompted to confirm the action. If you answer Y (yes) to confirm the
> action you will receive a message stating that a new master boot record
> was successfully written. If the syntax is incorrect you will be
> returned to the > prompt without any message of any kind.
>
> You can also run the FIXMBR command without specifying any device and
> the MBR will be written to the boot device, here again you will receive
> a warning message and be asked to confirm the action.
>
> Fixmbr will surely dislodge the GRUB loader from the MBR, you just have
> to use the proper syntax.
>
> John

Hi John -

Thank you for weighing in.

The MAP command returned this:

? NTFS 6150MB \Device\Harddisk0\Partition1
C: NTFS 68653MB \Device\Harddisk0\Partition2
E: NTFS 39621MB \Device\Harddisk0\Partition3
D: FAT16 963MB \Device\Harddisk1\Partition1

What's the next step, gentlemen?

Many thanks, once again, for your time and patience.

Carl