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From: Erik Richard Sørensen on 8 Apr 2010 22:33

Tim McNamara wrote:
> tinkerer(a)optusnet.com.au (Tinkerer Atlarge) wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>>> tinkerer(a)optusnet.com.au (Tinkerer Atlarge) wrote:
>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>> tinkerer(a)optusnet.com.au (Tinkerer Atlarge) wrote:
>>>>>> My powerpc mac (OSX 10.4.11) suddenly takes a lot longer to
>>>>>> shut down. This might have been caused by auto-updates to
>>>>>> Safari 4.0.5 or iTunes 9.1. I can't think of any other
>>>>>> reason.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know a way to make it shut down faster ?
>>>>> I'm betting a peek at the /var/log/system.log file would tell
>>>>> you exactly why it's taking so long.
>>>> Here is all I can find in /var/log/system.log relating to the
>>>> previous shut-down. It doesn't seem to cover anything like the 30
>>>> seconds of blue screen with little black twirly-gig at bottom.
>>>> Maybe you can spot something:
>>>>
>>>> Apr 7 11:23:07 eMac /Library/Application
>>>> Support/Symantec/Scheduler/SymSecondaryLaunch.app/Contents/NortonM
>>>> issedT asks: uid 501 already done\n
>>>
>>> You're running Norton - that's very likely the problem.
>> That's the one I was most reluctant to try, but it turned out to be
>> the solution. Using the Symantec Uninstaller to remove Norton AV
>> reduced the blue screen rumination period from 30 secs to 4 secs.
>
> There you go. This isn't new, BTW. Norton's stuff has been causing
> problems on Macs for 15 years or more. I don't know what the problem is
> with their programmers but they've never gotten in right on the Mac
> platform. I've always wondered if this is true on the Windows side,
> too, and whether Norton is the root of many of the usability and
> stability problems that plague that platform. So many people install it
> because the marketing convinces them it's essential.

Then I can guarantee you that the newer versions are even worse on the
Windows platform. The problem isnot the Norton Antivirus, but if you
also install the Norton Internet Security, then you will get problems -
and that both on Mac and Wintels!

I've been using Norton apps right since the Norton Utilities ver. 1.5 on
classic systems and the Norton Systemworks up to ver. 3.0 (10.3.x) and
later Norton Antivirus also on both 10.4.x and 10.5.x. And I have NEVER
had a single problem - except the one time I forgot to customise the NAV
and uncheck the install for the Internet Secutiry package. This gave
trouble, but after removing the IS package, everything was right again.

The only reason I no longer use the NAV is that I won't pay for 5
licenses, when I only have the need for one!

Cheers, Erik Richard

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From: Mr. Strat on 8 Apr 2010 22:41
In article <4bbe9012$0$8546$ba624c82(a)nntp06.dk.telia.net>, Erik Richard
S�rensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote:

> Apprx. 26 secs. to check for malware/virus isn't bad. But OK though a
> Mac cannot be infected by any at the time known virus, - it's always
> good to have an antivirus app so you won't be able to re-send any of
> those nasty PC vira that can hide inside a received email. - You can get
> the ClamXAV free, but you will experience the exact same 'problem',
> which I infact won't call a problem. - Better safe than sad...

It's incumbent upon the recipient to check for infections...not my job
to protect Windows losers.
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