From: Eliyas Yakub [MSFT] on
You are using the wrong toaster driver. The KMDF version doesn't do any
tracing. Use the WDM version -
C:\WinDDK\6000\src\general\toaster\func\featured2

-Eliyas

"Carey McMaster" <mcmaster(a)stargen.com> wrote in message
news:ujisZkzMHHA.5064(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for that Ken. Your suggestion to copy the .dll to the x86 dir works
> fine. I'm using my trusty XP (sp2) development system (Standard Dell
> Optiplex GX280).
>
> *** Ok so now I get
>
> ======================================================================
>
> \WinDDK\6000\src\kmdf\toaster\func\featured\objchk_wxp_x86\i386>tracepdb
> -f wdffeatured.
> pdb -p tmf
>
> Microsoft (R) TracePDB.Exe (6.0.6000.16386)
> ? Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>
> tracepdb : info BNP0000: WPPFMT No Trace entries found in wdffeatured.pdb
>
> C:\WinDDK\6000\src\kmdf\toaster\func\featured\objchk_wxp_x86\i386>
> ======================================================================
>
> Which is what Eliyas wanted me to check. I'm compiling the WDK 6000 demo's
> unmodified on XP Pro. Do I need to do something else to get tracing turned
> on? Is it a bad assumption that tracing should be enabled by default in a
> checked environment?
>
> thanks again!
> -cm
>
>
> "Skywing [MVP]" <skywing_NO_SPAM_(a)valhallalegends.com> wrote in message
> news:%239tF7oQMHHA.4384(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> That is probably the root cause of your problem. In the absense of
>> manifests or .local files, the following algorithm is used to find DLLs
>>
>> 1. Directory containing the main executable file for the process.
>> 2. Directory specified by the SetDllDirectory API, if this API has been
>> called.
>> 3. System directory.
>> 4. Win16 system directory.
>> 5. Windows directory.
>> 6. %PATH%, in order of appearance in the environment variable.
>>
>> My guess is that you are getting down to #3, and as there is a
>> dbghelp.dll in the system directory, it is being loaded.
>>
>> You might try copying the dbghelp.dll in bin\x86 to the directory
>> containing tracepdb.exe and seeing if that works.
>>
>> BTW, my supposition as to why this is working for Eliyas and not you is
>> that Eliyas is using Windows Vista (which ships a new enough version of
>> dbghelp so as to have SymSearch/SymSearchW), and you are using a
>> non-Vista/Windows Server "Longhorn" version (perhaps Windows XP) that
>> ships an old dbghelp which does not meet the requriements of
>> tracepdb.exe. My guess is that nobody bothered testing this functionality
>> on pre-Vista systems, so this slipped through to the RTM WDK.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Johnson (Skywing)
>> Windows SDK MVP
>> http://www.nynaeve.net
>> "Carey McMaster" <mcmaster(a)stargen.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23iLyaZQMHHA.4928(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Ken,
>>>
>>> There are 7 different versions of dbghelp.dll on my system (arghhhh).
>>>
>>> In my XP x86 Checked env cmd window c:\winddk\6000\bin\x86 is the first
>>> path entry to have dbghelp.dll. I tried the debug method you gave me,
>>> and it shows that it is getting dbghelp.dll from \windows\system32
>>> though my path says different. Am I hosed? Are the tracing tools hosed?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> -cm
>>>
>>>
>>> "Skywing [MVP]" <skywing_NO_SPAM_(a)valhallalegends.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23mPfwGQMHHA.3288(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Is it possible that the wrong version of dbghelp.dll (perhaps an old
>>>> version in %systemroot%\system32) is being loaded instead? Try
>>>> starting the process under a debugger (perhaps attach to the cmd
>>>> instance associated wth the DDK build environment, use `.childdbg 1'
>>>> and run the tracepdb command from there. Note the path to the loaded
>>>> dbghelp.dll instance and make sure it's really the newer one in bin\x86
>>>> and not the old version that ships with the OS.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ken Johnson (Skywing)
>>>> Windows SDK MVP
>>>> http://www.nynaeve.net
>>>> "Carey McMaster" <mcmaster(a)stargen.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eDgJhvPMHHA.2232(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Eliyas, I get the same output as you do. Dbghelp.dll contains
>>>>> SymSearch at 145 and 146. I'm searching my disk for more dbghelp.dll
>>>>>
>>>>> "Eliyas Yakub [MSFT]" <eliyasy(a)online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OAAB7fPMHHA.3268(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> You get this error if the dbghelp.dll doesn't have SymSearch function
>>>>>> exported. Can you check your dgbhelp.dll to see if it exports this
>>>>>> function?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This how you check for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> C:\WinDDK\6000\tools\tracing\i386>link /dump /exports
>>>>>> C:\WinDDK\6000\bin\x86\dbghelp.dll | findstr SymSearch
>>>>>> 145 90 00037E40 SymSearch
>>>>>> 146 91 00037EB0 SymSearchW
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Eliyas
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

From: Carey McMaster on
Hmmm... My bad for assuming consistency.

Thanks Eliyas...
-cm

"Eliyas Yakub [MSFT]" <eliyasy(a)online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ePUHAE0MHHA.3952(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> You are using the wrong toaster driver. The KMDF version doesn't do any
> tracing. Use the WDM version -
> C:\WinDDK\6000\src\general\toaster\func\featured2
>
> -Eliyas
>
> "Carey McMaster" <mcmaster(a)stargen.com> wrote in message
> news:ujisZkzMHHA.5064(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks for that Ken. Your suggestion to copy the .dll to the x86 dir
>> works fine. I'm using my trusty XP (sp2) development system (Standard
>> Dell Optiplex GX280).
>>
>> *** Ok so now I get
>>
>> ======================================================================
>>
>>
>> inDDK\6000\src\kmdf\toaster\func\featured\objchk_wxp_x86\i386>tracepdb
>> -f wdffeatured.
>> pdb -p tmf
>>
>> Microsoft (R) TracePDB.Exe (6.0.6000.16386)
>> ? Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>>
>> tracepdb : info BNP0000: WPPFMT No Trace entries found in wdffeatured.pdb
>>
>> C:\WinDDK\6000\src\kmdf\toaster\func\featured\objchk_wxp_x86\i386>
>> ======================================================================
>>
>> Which is what Eliyas wanted me to check. I'm compiling the WDK 6000
>> demo's unmodified on XP Pro. Do I need to do something else to get
>> tracing turned on? Is it a bad assumption that tracing should be enabled
>> by default in a checked environment?
>>
>> thanks again!
>> -cm
>>
>>
>> "Skywing [MVP]" <skywing_NO_SPAM_(a)valhallalegends.com> wrote in message
>> news:%239tF7oQMHHA.4384(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> That is probably the root cause of your problem. In the absense of
>>> manifests or .local files, the following algorithm is used to find DLLs
>>>
>>> 1. Directory containing the main executable file for the process.
>>> 2. Directory specified by the SetDllDirectory API, if this API has been
>>> called.
>>> 3. System directory.
>>> 4. Win16 system directory.
>>> 5. Windows directory.
>>> 6. %PATH%, in order of appearance in the environment variable.
>>>
>>> My guess is that you are getting down to #3, and as there is a
>>> dbghelp.dll in the system directory, it is being loaded.
>>>
>>> You might try copying the dbghelp.dll in bin\x86 to the directory
>>> containing tracepdb.exe and seeing if that works.
>>>
>>> BTW, my supposition as to why this is working for Eliyas and not you is
>>> that Eliyas is using Windows Vista (which ships a new enough version of
>>> dbghelp so as to have SymSearch/SymSearchW), and you are using a
>>> non-Vista/Windows Server "Longhorn" version (perhaps Windows XP) that
>>> ships an old dbghelp which does not meet the requriements of
>>> tracepdb.exe. My guess is that nobody bothered testing this
>>> functionality on pre-Vista systems, so this slipped through to the RTM
>>> WDK.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ken Johnson (Skywing)
>>> Windows SDK MVP
>>> http://www.nynaeve.net
>>> "Carey McMaster" <mcmaster(a)stargen.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23iLyaZQMHHA.4928(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Ken,
>>>>
>>>> There are 7 different versions of dbghelp.dll on my system (arghhhh).
>>>>
>>>> In my XP x86 Checked env cmd window c:\winddk\6000\bin\x86 is the first
>>>> path entry to have dbghelp.dll. I tried the debug method you gave me,
>>>> and it shows that it is getting dbghelp.dll from \windows\system32
>>>> though my path says different. Am I hosed? Are the tracing tools hosed?
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> -cm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Skywing [MVP]" <skywing_NO_SPAM_(a)valhallalegends.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23mPfwGQMHHA.3288(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Is it possible that the wrong version of dbghelp.dll (perhaps an old
>>>>> version in %systemroot%\system32) is being loaded instead? Try
>>>>> starting the process under a debugger (perhaps attach to the cmd
>>>>> instance associated wth the DDK build environment, use `.childdbg 1'
>>>>> and run the tracepdb command from there. Note the path to the loaded
>>>>> dbghelp.dll instance and make sure it's really the newer one in
>>>>> bin\x86 and not the old version that ships with the OS.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ken Johnson (Skywing)
>>>>> Windows SDK MVP
>>>>> http://www.nynaeve.net
>>>>> "Carey McMaster" <mcmaster(a)stargen.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eDgJhvPMHHA.2232(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Eliyas, I get the same output as you do. Dbghelp.dll contains
>>>>>> SymSearch at 145 and 146. I'm searching my disk for more dbghelp.dll
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Eliyas Yakub [MSFT]" <eliyasy(a)online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:OAAB7fPMHHA.3268(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> You get this error if the dbghelp.dll doesn't have SymSearch
>>>>>>> function exported. Can you check your dgbhelp.dll to see if it
>>>>>>> exports this function?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This how you check for it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> C:\WinDDK\6000\tools\tracing\i386>link /dump /exports
>>>>>>> C:\WinDDK\6000\bin\x86\dbghelp.dll | findstr SymSearch
>>>>>>> 145 90 00037E40 SymSearch
>>>>>>> 146 91 00037EB0 SymSearchW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Eliyas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>


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