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From: Jim on 5 Dec 2009 15:06
Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote:

> On 2009-12-05 19:26:04 +0000, Ian McCall said:
>
> > netstat -anp |grep 5204, then ps auxww |grep <pid> ?
>
> Netstat's -p option is Linux-only. It doesn't work on Macs anyway.

Yes it does. Try it. Without the '-p tcp' bit I get a quite lengthy
output including a whole slew of udp stuff.

Out of interest, could a few other people try "netstat -p tcp" with
nothing running and see what they get?

I _do_ have file sharing active.

Jim
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From: James Jolley on 5 Dec 2009 15:30
On 2009-12-05 19:26:04 +0000, Ian McCall <ian(a)eruvia.org> said:

> On 2009-12-05 19:13:40 +0000, jim(a)magrathea.plus.com (Jim) said:
>
>> With no apps open, I'm still geting a small trickle of network activity
>> (as viewed by iStat Menus). This isn't normal.
>>
>> How can I find out what's causing this? The only new software recently
>> has been Transmission, which isn't running.
>>
>> netstat -p tcp isn't showing anything I'd personally get concerned by,
>> but for reference:
>>
>> uther:~ jim$ netstat -p tcp
>> Active Internet connections
>> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address
>> (state)
>> tcp4 0 0 localhost.5204 localhost.49359
>> ESTABLISHED
>> tcp4 0 0 localhost.49359 localhost.5204
>> ESTABLISHED
>> tcp4 0 0 localhost.5204 localhost.49358
>> ESTABLISHED
>> tcp4 0 0 localhost.49358 localhost.5204
>> ESTABLISHED
>> tcp4 0 0 localhost.5204 localhost.49357
>> ESTABLISHED
>> tcp4 0 0 localhost.49357 localhost.5204
>> ESTABLISHED
>
> netstat -anp |grep 5204, then ps auxww |grep <pid> ?
>
>
> Cheers,
> Ian

I don't find that, I usually spend my time swaring at systems if I
can't get things to work. TTS is just a method of getting info for me,
the voice becomes so unimportant. I used to use Fred on OS 9 because
that's what was supported.

The scripting for Trillion was just to read back text as it appeared.
There was some element of programming because the screen reader had to
look for text and process it as it appeared. They use a function called
NewTextEvent in JAWS but this is wildly OT.

From: James Jolley on 5 Dec 2009 15:44
On 2009-12-05 20:30:58 +0000, James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> said:

> On 2009-12-05 19:26:04 +0000, Ian McCall <ian(a)eruvia.org> said:
>
>> On 2009-12-05 19:13:40 +0000, jim(a)magrathea.plus.com (Jim) said:
>>
>>> With no apps open, I'm still geting a small trickle of network activity
>>> (as viewed by iStat Menus). This isn't normal.
>>>
>>> How can I find out what's causing this? The only new software recently
>>> has been Transmission, which isn't running.
>>>
>>> netstat -p tcp isn't showing anything I'd personally get concerned by,
>>> but for reference:
>>>
>>> uther:~ jim$ netstat -p tcp
>>> Active Internet connections
>>> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address
>>> (state)
>>> tcp4 0 0 localhost.5204 localhost.49359
>>> ESTABLISHED
>>> tcp4 0 0 localhost.49359 localhost.5204
>>> ESTABLISHED
>>> tcp4 0 0 localhost.5204 localhost.49358
>>> ESTABLISHED
>>> tcp4 0 0 localhost.49358 localhost.5204
>>> ESTABLISHED
>>> tcp4 0 0 localhost.5204 localhost.49357
>>> ESTABLISHED
>>> tcp4 0 0 localhost.49357 localhost.5204
>>> ESTABLISHED
>>
>> netstat -anp |grep 5204, then ps auxww |grep <pid> ?
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ian
>
> I don't find that, I usually spend my time swaring at systems if I
> can't get things to work. TTS is just a method of getting info for me,
> the voice becomes so unimportant. I used to use Fred on OS 9 because
> that's what was supported.
>
> The scripting for Trillion was just to read back text as it appeared.
> There was some element of programming because the screen reader had to
> look for text and process it as it appeared. They use a function called
> NewTextEvent in JAWS but this is wildly OT.

Disregard folks, replied to the wrong post by accident. I'd been
copying files in the finder and needed to turn off the mouse tracking
for selecting non-contiguous items. Forgot to turn it back on so the
mouse wasn't in the same place as the VO cursor. Replied to the wrong
message.

Best

-James-

From: Chris Ridd on 5 Dec 2009 16:11
On 2009-12-05 20:06:18 +0000, Jim said:

> Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2009-12-05 19:26:04 +0000, Ian McCall said:
>>
>>> netstat -anp |grep 5204, then ps auxww |grep <pid> ?
>>
>> Netstat's -p option is Linux-only. It doesn't work on Macs anyway.
>
> Yes it does. Try it. Without the '-p tcp' bit I get a quite lengthy
> output including a whole slew of udp stuff.

Ah, you were doing "-p tcp" and not just "-p" (despite the quoted
command above). The naked -p does not work:

aluminium:bin cjr$ /usr/sbin/netstat -anp|grep 5204
/usr/sbin/netstat: option requires an argument -- p
Usage: netstat [-AaLlnW] [-f address_family | -p protocol]
netstat [-gilns] [-f address_family]
netstat -i | -I interface [-w wait] [-abdgt]
netstat -s [-s] [-f address_family | -p protocol] [-w wait]
netstat -i | -I interface -s [-f address_family | -p protocol]
netstat -m [-m]
netstat -r [-Aaln] [-f address_family]
netstat -rs [-s]

On Linux, the naked -p prints the name/pid of the process with the open
local endpoint, so is a sort of alternative to the lsof incantation I
mentioned.

--
Chris

From: Chris Ridd on 5 Dec 2009 16:12
On 2009-12-05 20:46:14 +0000, R said:

> On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 19:34:09 +0000, Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The first hit for port 5204 was for some windows worm. MyDoom? No VMs
>> running? Run "lsof -i4:5204" to see what processes are doing the
>> talking. (The "4" is for IPv4.)
>
> My money's on iStatLocalDeamon :P

That's 5109, but it is worth checking :-)
--
Chris

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