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From: Michael Helland on 10 Jul 2010 01:20 On Jul 9, 5:07 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 7/9/10 5:00 PM, Michael Helland wrote: > > > Except in a model where light slows down as evidenced by Hubble > > redshift. > > Did you forget that the speed of light is a defined constant! Did you forget that is a scientific postulate, possibly with a limited domain of applicability, not a Universal and Absolute truth protected by taboo! > Physics FAQ: What is the experimental basis of special relativity? > http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html
From: eric gisse on 10 Jul 2010 01:39 Michael Helland wrote: > On Jul 9, 5:34 pm, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Michael Helland wrote: >> >> [...] >> >> >> >> >> > Except in a model where light slows down as evidenced by Hubble >> >> > redshift. >> >> >> Wrong and stupid. Frequency and wavelength are measured separately, >> >> and still multiple together to obtain 'c' even from cosmic sources. >> >> > In order to measure the wavelength of light you'll be bouncing it off >> > a mirror and focusing it through lenses. >> >> Wrong and stupid again. Learn about diffraction gratings. > > > You think you can point a device without mirrors and a lens at an > object 50 million light years away? > > You're on crack. And you are reinventing electromagnetic theory to support your latest uneducated guess about how the universe works, all the while demonstrating your complete ignorance of basic observational astronomy.
From: Sam Wormley on 10 Jul 2010 01:54 On 7/10/10 12:18 AM, Michael Helland wrote: > On Jul 9, 5:16 pm, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> On a quantum level, that means the light will be absorbed (with the >>> redshifted frequency) and re-emitted without adding an energy. >> >> What ever gave you that the wavelength was shifted by a mirror? > > Measurements of increased wavelength and decreased frequency from > cosmological light. One can measure the spectra of a light source directly and then reflected by a mirror and see that the spectra are identical. Do the experiment Mike! It doesn't matter if the light source is cosmic or in the lab. The mirror doesn't change the spectra.
From: Sam Wormley on 10 Jul 2010 02:01 On 7/10/10 12:19 AM, Michael Helland wrote: > On Jul 9, 5:34 pm, eric gisse<jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Michael Helland wrote: >> >> [...] >> >> >> >>>>> Except in a model where light slows down as evidenced by Hubble >>>>> redshift. >> >>>> Wrong and stupid. Frequency and wavelength are measured separately, and >>>> still multiple together to obtain 'c' even from cosmic sources. >> >>> In order to measure the wavelength of light you'll be bouncing it off >>> a mirror and focusing it through lenses. >> >> Wrong and stupid again. Learn about diffraction gratings. > > > You think you can point a device without mirrors and a lens at an > object 50 million light years away? I can see the Andromeda Galaxy (M31) with my naked eye, at 2.5 Mly. What's another 20 times that? Don't forget other parts of the electromagnetic spectrum. We have gamma, x-ray, UV, visible IR, microwave and radio telescopes. None of them alter the wavelength of the "light" they collect. > > You're on crack.
From: Sam Wormley on 10 Jul 2010 02:03
On 7/10/10 12:20 AM, Michael Helland wrote: > On Jul 9, 5:07 pm, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On 7/9/10 5:00 PM, Michael Helland wrote: >> >>> Except in a model where light slows down as evidenced by Hubble >>> redshift. >> >> Did you forget that the speed of light is a defined constant! > > > Did you forget that is a scientific postulate, possibly with a limited > domain of applicability, not a Universal and Absolute truth protected > by taboo! > Did you forget it is a measured constant! I hate to say this Mike, but you really put up a resistance to credible information and learning. Why is that? Did you fail some classes? > > > >> Physics FAQ: What is the experimental basis of special relativity? >> http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html > |