From: Mr.Jan on
On Feb 14, 9:11 am, dieHard® <dieH...(a)msn.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 04:58:33 -0800 (PST), "Mr.Jan"
>
> <jan.hertz...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I have no worries about someone accessing the summary of information
> >with an online Quicken.
>
> Your Quicken records are more than just a "summary".
> If you're not worried about someone hacking your personal financial
> information including all your records, transactions, bank info and
> account numbers, then by all means, go for

You raise a good point about the account numbers. I have been using
Yodlee, Mint, and Geezeo for years now with no issues. I think Yodlee
has the better platform but Mint has some nice features and Geezeo is
just more hands on. Since Mint will be the basis of the new Quicken
online, I did a quick check and I liked what I saw. Yes, this is a
trust issue. I have it and you don't. Fair enough. I do lots of
transactions online and donate money through the internet as well. I
guess I am just more comfortable. I also keep a very close watch on
things. I also like Mint's option to be notified when a transaction is
processed. Keeps my accounts safer.


Mint provides bank-level data security for the transaction information
we store.

* Mint.com always transmits personal and financial information
securely.
* We store transaction information in a secure facility, on
our own servers, protected by 24/7 security guards and biometric
scanners.
* All our employees pass financial and criminal background
checks as a condition of employment.
* All our employees pass background checks as a condition of
employment.
* The Mint.com website has received the VeriSign security seal
and is tested daily by Hackersafe.
* Our privacy protection standards are certified by TRUSTe.
* We subscribe to an anti-phishing service to discover and
take-down malicious sites intended to fool our customers.

From: Andrew on
RichardF wrote:
> On Feb 13, 9:26 am, "Mr.Jan" <jan.hertz...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> The current QOL version is dreadful and Mint.Com, which Intuit
>> recently purchased, is pretty basic. ... Moving to the cloud
>> is the right way to go.
> _______________
>
> If the relatively slow access time to your data, and possible site
> hackers/data pilferers don't bother you :)

And the loss of your data when their system is 'down' or goes away. Again,
to me, that's the BIGGEST problem with removing data from local control.
The fact that the data is elsewhere is secondary concern (think about it, it
already is!).
--
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Regards -

- Andrew


From: RichardF on
On Feb 14, 8:53 am, "Mr.Jan" <jan.hertz...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I have been using Yodlee, Mint, and Geezeo for years now
> with no issues.
_________________

Recently I signed up for Mint to see what it was like. It wouldn't
connect to any of my FIs using the same sign-on data successfully used
by Q2010 Deluxe, or directly through a browser connection to the FIs.

I asked Mint to look into the problem, and they asked me to send them
my FI sign-on data so they could investigate. I told them I was
unwilling to do that using their unsecured e-mail connection, and
asked if they had any way to receive it by secure means. So far they
have not responded about that.

OTOH, I tried Qkn Online, and it connected and worked as well as the
concept was implemented. But it lacked the speed and depth of the
features in desktop Quicken, and I am not confident about the security
of my financial data in the "clouds" (including account IDs and sign-
ons). I deleted my account with Qkn Online, and will continue using
desktop software.
From: Mr.Jan on
On Feb 14, 10:26 am, RichardF <r...(a)adams.net> wrote:
> On Feb 14, 8:53 am, "Mr.Jan" <jan.hertz...(a)gmail.com> wrote:> I have been using Yodlee, Mint, and Geezeo for years now
> > with no issues.
>
> _________________
>
> Recently I signed up for Mint to see what it was like.  It wouldn't
> connect to any of my FIs using the same sign-on data successfully used
> by Q2010 Deluxe, or directly through a browser connection to the FIs.
>
> I asked Mint to look into the problem, and they asked me to send them
> my FI sign-on data so they could investigate.  I told them I was
> unwilling to do that using their unsecured e-mail connection, and
> asked if they had any way to receive it by secure means.  So far they
> have not responded about that.
>
> OTOH, I tried Qkn Online, and it connected and worked as well as the
> concept was implemented.  But it lacked the speed and depth of the
> features in desktop Quicken, and I am not confident about the security
> of my financial data in the "clouds" (including account IDs and sign-
> ons).  I deleted my account with Qkn Online, and will continue using
> desktop software.

I certainly will continue to use my desktop version of Quicken until
they get the same level of functionality into Quicken online/Mint. I
too have had the occasional gotcha from Mint but only one account so
far. They have even managed to get through to some accounts that
Quicken desktop can't download so there has been a tradeoff. My own
view is that if MINT is at level X without Intuit, it should be a lot
more robust in a half year or so.

I am making the assumption that Intuit will incorporate the
functionality of the current desktop version to the online version.
Obviously, if they don't, I won't bother but that is the goal they
seem to be striving toward.
From: Eric J. Holtman on
Ted <username(a)isp.net.invalid> wrote in
news:PM00047F82B5284B3E(a)Fred.hsd1.mn.comcast.net:

> I won't be putting anything of true personal
> value in the cloud.
>

Like it's not there already?

Where do you think the information comes from when
you do a One Step Update?
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