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From: Bigos on 24 Dec 2009 05:38 On Dec 23, 1:20 pm, gavino <gavcom...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I just don't kow if I can learn it. Please don't despair. I think main problem with Lisp is changing the way you think. When I started learning Lisp for the first time I have felt like I am learning a different language. Other languages I have learned so far seem to be so similar that learning another was not a problem. When you are learning Lisp you also have to learn quite lot of advanced programming which might make things seem to be more difficult. I understand the way you feel. I have felt like this many times yet I can't completely give up on Lisp. I saw some of it's power and I am hooked now. My advice is take some rest, let your unconscious mind work on it, and after a while come back to Lisp, and you will notice that you will be able to progress much further than before, and after several cycles of giving up and returning to Lisp you will eventually become a proper Lisper. Good Luck Jacek
From: Bigos on 24 Dec 2009 05:53 On Dec 23, 8:31 pm, Francogrex <fra...(a)grex.org> wrote: > On Dec 23, 2:20 pm, gavino <gavcom...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > I just don't kow if I can learn it. > > Huh? Common Lisp (or any lisp for that matter) is one of the most > straightforward languages. You write almost as you would write in > plain English... Maybe you should go try to learn assembly, then > you'll realize how simple lisp is (by comparison). For people who think in assembler learning Lisp can be difficult. I started with low level languages and maybe this is the reason why I had problems with Lisp. Lisp's syntax is very easy but changing your thinking habits can be difficult. There's a lot to unlearn.
From: Cecil Westerhof on 24 Dec 2009 06:13 Bigos <ruby.object(a)googlemail.com> writes: > Please don't despair. I think main problem with Lisp is changing the > way you think. When I started learning Lisp for the first time I have > felt like I am learning a different language. Other languages I have > learned so far seem to be so similar that learning another was not a > problem. The same here. I had no big problems with going from C to C++, bash, java, perl, php, python, ... I just started with CL and find that the effort I need to put in for the switch is much higher as with those other languages. -- Cecil Westerhof Senior Software Engineer LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilwesterhof
From: Jaseem VV on 24 Dec 2009 06:41 On Dec 24, 4:13 pm, Cecil Westerhof <Ce...(a)decebal.nl> wrote: > Bigos <ruby.obj...(a)googlemail.com> writes: > > Please don't despair. I think main problem with Lisp is changing the > > way you think. When I started learning Lisp for the first time I have > > felt like I am learning a different language. Other languages I have > > learned so far seem to be so similar that learning another was not a > > problem. > > The same here. I had no big problems with going from C to C++, bash, > java, perl, php, python, ... I just started with CL and find that the > effort I need to put in for the switch is much higher as with those > other languages. > > -- > Cecil Westerhof > Senior Software Engineer > LinkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilwesterhof Ya that's right. CL need more effort.
From: Pascal J. Bourguignon on 24 Dec 2009 09:50
Bigos <ruby.object(a)googlemail.com> writes: > On Dec 23, 1:20�pm, gavino <gavcom...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I just don't kow if I can learn it. > > Please don't despair. I think main problem with Lisp is changing the > way you think. When I started learning Lisp for the first time I have > felt like I am learning a different language. Other languages I have > learned so far seem to be so similar that learning another was not a > problem. > > When you are learning Lisp you also have to learn quite lot of > advanced programming which might make things seem to be more > difficult. > > I understand the way you feel. I have felt like this many times yet I > can't completely give up on Lisp. I saw some of it's power and I am > hooked now. > > My advice is take some rest, let your unconscious mind work on it, and > after a while come back to Lisp, and you will notice that you will be > able to progress much further than before, and after several cycles of > giving up and returning to Lisp you will eventually become a proper > Lisper. LOL Yeah right! Give gavino ten years of rest to let his unconscious mind work on it! > Good Luck > > Jacek -- __Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/ In a World without Walls and Fences, who needs Windows and Gates? |