From: Ron Johnson on
On 04/24/2010 06:11 PM, James P. Wallen wrote:
[snip]
>
> PS: My apologies. Recent update to my mail client coupled with lack of
> sleep. I accidentally sent Ron a direct e-mail reply. Mea culpa.
>

I don't think I've hated a program more than I hate Tbird 3.0.

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From: Kevin Ross on
On 4/24/2010 4:50 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/24/2010 06:11 PM, James P. Wallen wrote:
> [snip]
>>
>> PS: My apologies. Recent update to my mail client coupled with lack of
>> sleep. I accidentally sent Ron a direct e-mail reply. Mea culpa.
>>
>
> I don't think I've hated a program more than I hate Tbird 3.0.
>

I agree. I like that it has the "Reply to List" button (which I know
was available as an add-on before), but that's the only thing about it
that I like better. Well maybe putting the reply, etc. buttons in the
message header area instead of up top is an improvement, too. But
otherwise, I'm not loving it.


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From: James P. Wallen on
On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/24/2010 06:11 PM, James P. Wallen wrote:
> [snip]
>>
>> PS: My apologies. Recent update to my mail client coupled with lack of
>> sleep. I accidentally sent Ron a direct e-mail reply. Mea culpa.
>>
>
> I don't think I've hated a program more than I hate Tbird 3.0.
>

I know that I had a good reason for deciding to use it. I just can't
remember what it was. Probably the Icedove vs. Thunderbird / Iceweasel
vs. Firefox thing.

Oh yeah. Now I remember. The integrated calendar -- which is a whole
other realm of suffering. That, and wanting to go as "standard" with
application choices in my early foray into Debian.

I have a tendency to just stick with something and adapt if it at least
works with reasonable consistency. But some things finally irk me enough
to goad me out of my inertia.


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From: Dotan Cohen on
On 25 April 2010 02:50, Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson(a)cox.net> wrote:
> On 04/24/2010 06:11 PM, James P. Wallen wrote:
> [snip]
>>
>> PS: My apologies. Recent update to my mail client coupled with lack of
>> sleep. I accidentally sent Ron a direct e-mail reply. Mea culpa.
>>
>
> I don't think I've hated a program more than I hate Tbird 3.0.
>

Lots of issues with Tb 3.0 have been addressed for 3.1. Just yesterday
the issue of the column list default for all folders was fixed
(albight in the worse way possible):
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=505035

Lots of other issues, such as the message header being huge, are taken
care of in addons. And lots of Tb2 bugs are fixed in Tb3 (such as the
invalid server cert issue).

What issues do you have? I can point you to the bugs, and I can help
suggest addons.



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From: Ron Johnson on
On 04/25/2010 08:02 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On 25 April 2010 02:50, Ron Johnson<ron.l.johnson(a)cox.net> wrote:
>> On 04/24/2010 06:11 PM, James P. Wallen wrote:
>> [snip]
>>>
>>> PS: My apologies. Recent update to my mail client coupled with lack of
>>> sleep. I accidentally sent Ron a direct e-mail reply. Mea culpa.
>>>
>>
>> I don't think I've hated a program more than I hate Tbird 3.0.
>>
>
> Lots of issues with Tb 3.0 have been addressed for 3.1. Just yesterday
> the issue of the column list default for all folders was fixed
> (albight in the worse way possible):
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=505035
>
> Lots of other issues, such as the message header being huge, are taken
> care of in addons. And lots of Tb2 bugs are fixed in Tb3 (such as the
> invalid server cert issue).

But Tbird/ID 2.0.x (the layout and UI) was *not* broken!

> What issues do you have? I can point you to the bugs, and I can help
> suggest addons.

It's "different" for *no ascertainable reasons*.

Fix what *is* broken, not what's not broken.

The same with FireFox/Iceweasel. Major UI and add-on redesigns in
an upcoming version, but the UI is fine just like it is.

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