In a Consistent System, Can a True Sentence Imply a False One?
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From: herbzet on 31 Jul 2010 23:23 Aatu Koskensilta wrote: > Nam's English is usually pretty good Reading Nam always has made me want to drive nails into my head to relieve the pain. I hope saying so will not be thought rude.
From: herbzet on 31 Jul 2010 23:24 Marshall wrote: > Aatu Koskensilta wrote: > > Marshall writes: > > > Just picture him in that clown outfit, waving his coffee-stained copy > > > of Schoenfeld, ranting at the undergrads outside the clown college. > > > > Shoenfield, you beef-eating invasion-monkey, Shoenfield! > > Goddammit, I spent five minutes in the Google trying to > establish the spelling, knowing you're so finicky about > it, and that was what I came up with. > > It's not a spelling-of-proper-names, newsgroup, you know. Ya beef-eating invasion monkey!! <giggling helplessly>
From: Aatu Koskensilta on 31 Jul 2010 23:25 herbzet <herbzet(a)gmail.com> writes: > Aatu Koskensilta wrote: > >> Nam's English is usually pretty good > > Reading Nam always has made me want to drive > nails into my head to relieve the pain. Well, yes, but apart from that... -- Aatu Koskensilta (aatu.koskensilta(a)uta.fi) "Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, dar�ber muss man schweigen" - Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus
From: Aatu Koskensilta on 1 Aug 2010 10:38 Marshall <marshall.spight(a)gmail.com> writes: > On Jul 31, 6:19�am, Aatu Koskensilta <aatu.koskensi...(a)uta.fi> wrote: > >> If you say so, Marital Spite, if you say so. > > You misspelled "martial." I misspelled the intended misspelling. What an odd thing to happen. I'm reminded of the alt text in an XKCD comic: I kept doing "doing 'doing it wrong' wrong" wrong. > Or, since both my first name and last name are homonyms of English > words, you could just go with "marshal spite" which makes my name a > complete sentence. I considered that, yes. It's a fine name you have. > Hmmm.... What's a pun I can make off of "Koskensilta?" Well, this is not really a pun, but I once came up with a hilarious scenario that alas only really makes sense in Finnish. Suppose there was an author whose name was Aatu Koski. (This is a perfectly ordinary Finnish name.) And suppose he wrote a book with the title "Silta yli ��rett�myyden" ("A Bridge over Infinity"). The cover would no doubt say something like Aatu Kosken Silta yli ��rett�myyden which is Finnish for "Aatu Koski's 'A Bridge over Infinity'". Now, suppose I too wrote a book, and called it "Yli ��rett�myyden" ("Over the Infinity"). The cover of my book would say Aatu Koskensilta Yli ��rett�myyden Humorous misunderstandings, such as we might see in a sitcom, would inevitably follow. Ha-ha! -- Aatu Koskensilta (aatu.koskensilta(a)uta.fi) "Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, dar�ber muss man schweigen" - Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus
From: Aatu Koskensilta on 1 Aug 2010 12:32
Marshall <marshall.spight(a)gmail.com> writes: > On Jul 31, 12:51 pm, Aatu Koskensilta <aatu.koskensi...(a)uta.fi> wrote: > >> In the meanwhile, I suggest you mull over Torkel's wise if somewhat >> whimsical words: >> >> In order to count as a major nuisance, it is of course not enough >> just to consistently contradict people. You must locate an actual >> weak spot in their argument, and criticize that weak spot in terms >> that your opponent will be forced to recognize as justified. Of >> course this can't always be done. Many posters of a sectarian bent, >> for example, will not recognize any criticism whatsoever of their >> argument, or of the argument of their guru, as in any way >> justified. In such cases you must be content with playing to the >> gallery. Basically, however, your aim as a major nuisance is to >> establish intellectual contact with your opponent, opening his eyes >> to certain facts or difficulties. > > The only person on this newsgroup that reminds me of is you, Aatu. I try my best... Thank you for these kind words. On an unŕelated note, yours is a nice example of a garden path sentence; it took me a while to parse it correctly -- at first I thought you were going to say something about the only person who on this newsgroup reminds you of something, a hypothesis I had to give up when it become apparent it made nonsense of the rest of the sentence. Parsing English, so it seems, requires unbounded lookahead. -- Aatu Koskensilta (aatu.koskensilta(a)uta.fi) "Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen" - Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus |