Indoor Volleyball pictures - advice needed
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From: JC Dill on 16 Jan 2007 11:03 On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:53:33 -0500, KenJr <kennyjr(a)NOSPAMatlanticbb.net> wrote: >First of all forget about IS, turn it off. IS is great for shooting >still life but is nearly worthless for action shots. Not so. See my other post in this thread for details why. jc -- "The nice thing about a mare is you get to ride a lot of different horses without having to own that many." ~ Eileen Morgan of The Mare's Nest, PA
From: ASAAR on 16 Jan 2007 12:14 On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:49:31 -0800, JC Dill wrote: >> First, the IS generally reduces >> movement enough so that you get 2 or 3 extra stops of exposure to >> play with, and whether you want to take advantage of stops of >> aperture or shutter speed is up to you. > > This only works when your lens HAS 2-3 extra stops to play with. Agreed. Perhaps you didn't notice my use of the word "generally"? Some people have made even more extravagant claims, saying that they get from 3 to 4 stops advantage from their camera's IS. I haven't seen any companies making such claims, but I suppose that it's not out of the question. > His lens was 5.6 at max zoom. If he had been using a faster lens, he > could have opened up his lens 2-3 stops and in doing so had a faster > shutter speed by the same amount. Uh, this only works if the lens IS faster and has at least 2 to 3 extra stops to play with. (See how that game works?) If you had read my reply to its end, you'd have see in point #3 that this was addressed specifically, mentioning the use of a faster (f/1.8) lens that could allow the use of a much faster shutter speed. RTFR :)
From: ASAAR on 16 Jan 2007 17:30 On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:15:05 -0500, then Rita � Berkowitz then wrote: > Some people would rather blast off 10,000 shots at an event and pick out a > handful of keepers. The other issue is if you are serious about shooting > indoor volleyball there's only two lenses capable of the task, the Canon > 200/1.8 and the Nikon 200/2. Using any other lenses then them two you are > better off not wasting your time. Trying for Blue Collar Speaklish? Don't make halfhearted attempts when you can go for it full bore with officially sanctioned lingo: "Using any other lenses then them thar two you're just pussyfooting around." Blast off 10,000 shots? Hmm, sounds vaguely familiar. :) "And then? And then?" "And then along came Jones" -- Saith them Coasters
From: Steve Cutchen on 16 Jan 2007 18:29 In article <12qqjjih869kj9c(a)news.supernews.com>, Rita � Berkowitz < @aol.com> wrote: > Cynicor wrote: > > >> This only works when your lens HAS 2-3 extra stops to play with. His > >> lens was 5.6 at max zoom. If he had been using a faster lens, he > >> could have opened up his lens 2-3 stops and in doing so had a faster > >> shutter speed by the same amount. For instance, if he was shooting > >> at f5.6 at 1/100, he could have opened up the aperture to f4 and > >> shot at 1/200, or opened to f2.8 and shot at 1/400. Bingo - now he > >> can stop the motion blur! IS will also help to offset camera blur > >> caused by moving the camera quickly to catch and follow the action. > > > > One of the things that you should train yourself to do when you're > > shooting sports is to anticipate the action instead of following it. > > If I see a breakaway developing, I'll prefocus on the goalie so that > > when the action hits, I'll be able to squeeze off a couple of shots > > in a row without adjusting anything. > > Some people would rather blast off 10,000 shots at an event and pick out a > handful of keepers. The other issue is if you are serious about shooting > indoor volleyball there's only two lenses capable of the task, the Canon > 200/1.8 and the Nikon 200/2. Using any other lenses then them two you are > better off not wasting your time. ya better be ahoping that the gym is a big'n an yew can backup a fur piece, or you'll be agettin' nuttin but earlobes with that 200mm, darlin.
From: John McWilliams on 16 Jan 2007 19:14
Steve Cutchen wrote: > In article <12qqjjih869kj9c(a)news.supernews.com>, Rita Ä Berkowitz < > @aol.com> wrote: > >> Cynicor wrote: >> >>>> This only works when your lens HAS 2-3 extra stops to play with. His >>>> lens was 5.6 at max zoom. If he had been using a faster lens, he >>>> could have opened up his lens 2-3 stops and in doing so had a faster >>>> shutter speed by the same amount. For instance, if he was shooting >>>> at f5.6 at 1/100, he could have opened up the aperture to f4 and >>>> shot at 1/200, or opened to f2.8 and shot at 1/400. Bingo - now he >>>> can stop the motion blur! IS will also help to offset camera blur >>>> caused by moving the camera quickly to catch and follow the action. >>> One of the things that you should train yourself to do when you're >>> shooting sports is to anticipate the action instead of following it. >>> If I see a breakaway developing, I'll prefocus on the goalie so that >>> when the action hits, I'll be able to squeeze off a couple of shots >>> in a row without adjusting anything. >> Some people would rather blast off 10,000 shots at an event and pick out a >> handful of keepers. The other issue is if you are serious about shooting >> indoor volleyball there's only two lenses capable of the task, the Canon >> 200/1.8 and the Nikon 200/2. Using any other lenses then them two you are >> better off not wasting your time. > > ya better be ahoping that the gym is a big'n an yew can backup a fur > piece, or you'll be agettin' nuttin but earlobes with that 200mm, > darlin. Yer up 'ginst the Mistress of Hyperbole, although she's a he in this case.... I wouldn't mind the 200 on my 5D.... -- John McWilliams |