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From: Archimedes Plutonium on 26 Feb 2010 15:06 David R Tribble wrote: > Archimedes Plutonium wrote: > > Charge is a fundamental concept of Physics and we cannot go lower than > > charge as to what it is, for it is already in the lowest tier of concepts. > > But notice that the > > proton is positive charge and is a tiny ball in the nucleus, of a > > finite mass, but notice > > that the electron is spread out to infinity in space of its electron- > > dot-clouds, and remember > > it is negative charge. > > And yet protons (baryons) are composed of three quarks, each > having a fundamental charge of +2/3 (two up) or -1/3 (one down). I was, and am fishing for the essence or fundamental meaning of "infinity". Infinity is "not endlessness". Infinity is the negative numbers. As you can see, that the quark combinations always have to have some negatives. The essential combination is proton + electron = neutron or +1 +(-1) = 0. Deleting the neutrino. The proton is + meaning that it is finite. The electron is - or negative, meaning that it is "infinite" and by infinite it means the electron dot cloud occupies infinite space. So the essential thing I am trying to convey, David, is that the concept of "endlessness" is not what infinity is about. That the concept of endlessness is a fiction, just as witches in the Salem area were past fictions. That Infinity means negative numbers alongside positive numbers. So what I am about in this, is the conveying of the idea that infinity means something far different than "endlessness or never stopping" Infinity means something stranger to our thinking. Infinity is the negative numbers. So when anyone engages in a conversation of infinity where they mean "endlessness", then refer them to a globe and ask them that if you go around in a great circle, there is no endlessness, there is simply a finiteness and that you end up where you started from. P.S. even though I speak of the quark theory does not mean I accept it. Quark theory is just scaffolding, and not a theory of science. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
From: David R Tribble on 27 Feb 2010 22:13
Archimedes Plutonium wrote: > So the essential thing I am trying to convey, David, is that the > concept of "endlessness" > is not what infinity is about. That the concept of endlessness is a > fiction, just as > witches in the Salem area were past fictions. That Infinity means > negative numbers > alongside positive numbers. > > So what I am about in this, is the conveying of the idea that infinity > means something > far different than "endlessness or never stopping" Infinity means > something stranger > to our thinking. Infinity is the negative numbers. > > So when anyone engages in a conversation of infinity where they mean > "endlessness", > then refer them to a globe and ask them that if you go around in a > great circle, there is no > endlessness, there is simply a finiteness and that you end up where > you started from. So then what is the focal length of a diopter +0 lens? |