Insane, paranoid Brits STILL at it.
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From: Paul Heslop on 17 Jul 2010 17:14 Robert Coe wrote: > > On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 06:53:13 +0100, Paul Heslop <paul.heslop(a)blueyonder.co.uk> > wrote: > : Robert Coe wrote: > : > And why are there so many IRA sympathizers in the US? Because their ancestors > : > migrated here en masse during the mid-19th century, bringing an abiding hatred > : > of the British with them. And why was that? Because the Brits, who ruled > : > Ireland at the time, did absolutely nothing to help the victims of a five-year > : > failure of the potato crop, and many of the migrants' relatives starved. > : > > : > I don't hold any brief for the IRA. (As it happens, I'm of British, not Irish, > : > ancestry.) But what goes around comes around. > : > > : > Bob > : > : that's a bad saying to stick to though. it means virtually all, if not > : all, countries will get it in the teeth from someone. I am English and > : despise what my country did in the past and sometimes still does > : today. so I should be punished for something an arsehole did in the > : past? > > You shouldn't, but old habits die hard. And old habits inherited from the past > often die hardest of all. > > Bob Oh I agree. but I am sure we all, as nations, have our crosses. USA with the natives and others, england with just about any and every country including itself, russia with itself and others, in fact I think they're all guilty of killing or abusing their own as much as others. -- Paul (we break easy) ------------------------------------------------------- Stop and Look http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/
From: Paul Heslop on 17 Jul 2010 17:15 Claire wrote: > > On 17 July, 06:53, Paul Heslop <paul.hes...(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > Robert Coe wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 08:30:50 +0100, Martin Brown > > > <|||newspam...(a)nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > > : Remember that in the UK we have lived with the threat of US funded IRA > > > : terrorists blowing up our shopping centres and infrastructure for over > > > : four decades. Islamic terrorists are more willing to inflict gratuitous > > > : civilian casualties but large bombs in our cities are not new. > > > : > > > : BTW Yesterday was the peak of the rioting season in Northern Ireland. > > > > > And why are there so many IRA sympathizers in the US? Because their ancestors > > > migrated here en masse during the mid-19th century, bringing an abiding hatred > > > of the British with them. And why was that? Because the Brits, who ruled > > > Ireland at the time, did absolutely nothing to help the victims of a five-year > > > failure of the potato crop, and many of the migrants' relatives starved. > > > > > I don't hold any brief for the IRA. (As it happens, I'm of British, not Irish, > > > ancestry.) But what goes around comes around. > > > > > Bob > > > > that's a bad saying to stick to though. it means virtually all, if not > > all, countries will get it in the teeth from someone. I am English and > > despise what my country did in the past and sometimes still does > > today. so I should be punished for something an arsehole did in the > > past? > > Indeed. I wonder what Mr Coe would make of similar sentiments > expressed about Americans just after 9/11? Plus what about the > Catholic victims of the IRA? What about the Muslim victims of Islamist > terrorism. I will never forget that the first victim of 7/7 to be > buried was a Muslim because she was the fiancé of a guy that used to > work in the same office. Northern Ireland is more segregated than some > think and less segregated than others think. Bombs cant detect what > religion you are or what politics you have!! and the frequent targeting of the softest targets, the old and the young. -- Paul (we break easy) ------------------------------------------------------- Stop and Look http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/
From: Max Muir on 17 Jul 2010 23:20 On Jul 16, 3:30 pm, Robert Coe <b...(a)1776.COM> wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 08:30:50 +0100, Martin Brown<|||newspam...(a)nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > : Remember that in the UK we have lived with the threat of US funded IRA > : terrorists blowing up our shopping centres and infrastructure for over > : four decades. Islamic terrorists are more willing to inflict gratuitous > : civilian casualties but large bombs in our cities are not new. > : > : BTW Yesterday was the peak of the rioting season in Northern Ireland. > > And why are there so many IRA sympathizers in the US? Because their ancestors > migrated here en masse during the mid-19th century, bringing an abiding hatred > of the British with them. And why was that? Because hatred is hereditary - you have to embrace the same hatreds your Xish ancestors felt, otherwise you are not a real X. But if the Xish identity is defined by hatred, is it worth embracing? > Because the Brits, who ruled Ireland at the time, > did absolutely nothing to help the victims of a five-year > failure of the potato crop, and many of the migrants' relatives starved. The Tory government set up soup kitchens and by the famine's peak in August 1847, over three million people were being fed through this system. Is this nothing? The British Relief Association raised 200,000 pounds for famine relief in England, America and Australia. That's not nothing is it? The Tory government set up a public work programme that sustained 700,00 people. That's not nothing is it? Quote - "During the famine, total relief expenditure was £8 million by the government, £7 million from Irish taxes and well over £1 million from landlords" That's not nothing is it? Our response was inadequate: a multi-stage, multi-faceted, tragic clusterfuck, but it wasn't "nothing" as you claim, nor was it anything like nothing. > I don't hold any brief for the IRA. Right. Even Sinn Fein recognises there was some famine relief. > (As it happens, I'm of British, not Irish, > ancestry.) But what goes around comes around. > > Bob Yes it does, and it is important to recognise it and nullify it. Max Muir
From: Claire on 17 Jul 2010 23:58 > > I don't hold any brief for the IRA. > > Right. Even Sinn Fein recognises there was some famine relief. Good God! I never thought Id see a post in which Sinn Fein came out looking like the voice of reason! I got up because I couldnt sleep but think I should lie back down again!!! ;-)
From: Max Muir on 18 Jul 2010 00:12
> > > I don't hold any brief for the IRA. > > > Right. Even Sinn Fein recognises there was some famine relief. > > Good God! I never thought Id see a post in which Sinn Fein came out > looking like the voice of reason! I got up because I couldnt sleep > but think I should lie back down again!!! ;-) Apparently you don't understand the significance of the word "Even". Still, full marks for creative misinterpretation. |