From: Suzanne S. Barnhill on 14 Mar 2010 12:06 Yes, Word can see text in tables for the purposes of TOC, cross-references, etc. (Word 2007 can also see the text in text boxes, for that matter, but that ability is not backward-compatible.) Because frames are sort of wrapped (though not in the drawing layer as text boxes are), they have to be anchored to a text paragraph, and they can sometimes wander in ways that are a pain to control. Tables (provided they don't become wrapped) will stay where you put them because they are in the text layer, part of the text flow. There are many excellent reasons to use frames, but when tables can be used instead and serve the purpose just as well, they are preferred. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org <Jeff(a)nospam.fake> wrote in message news:erwuuq4wKHA.3564(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > On 3/14/2010 6:11 AM, Graham Mayor wrote: >> Add the 'Insert Frame' command from the All Commands group to the QAT >> (Quick >> Access Toolbar). However to position two images alongside one another I >> would suggest the user of a borderless two cell table with fixed column >> width. >> > Using a table is an excellent idea. I wonder if Word sees the captions in > a table to create a index of illustrations. (This is for a book). > > Thanks for the info about the Insert Frame. I had previously searched for > it and not found it, but now I did. I guess I looked in the wrong places. > > BTW, I get a feeling you do not like using frames in a Word document. I > would appreciate knowing why using frames could be a problem. > > Jeff >
From: Jeff on 14 Mar 2010 14:18 On 3/14/2010 12:06 PM, Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: > Yes, Word can see text in tables for the purposes of TOC, > cross-references, etc. (Word 2007 can also see the text in text boxes, > for that matter, but that ability is not backward-compatible.) Because > frames are sort of wrapped (though not in the drawing layer as text > boxes are), they have to be anchored to a text paragraph, and they can > sometimes wander in ways that are a pain to control. Tables (provided > they don't become wrapped) will stay where you put them because they are > in the text layer, part of the text flow. There are many excellent > reasons to use frames, but when tables can be used instead and serve the > purpose just as well, they are preferred. > Thank you very much Suzanne. > Word can see text in tables for the purposes of TOC, > cross-references, etc. Is this one backward compatible to Word 2002? Jeff
From: Suzanne S. Barnhill on 14 Mar 2010 16:19 It's backward compatible to Word 2.0 AFAIK. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org <Jeff(a)nospam.fake> wrote in message news:uWG89K6wKHA.4492(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > On 3/14/2010 12:06 PM, Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: >> Yes, Word can see text in tables for the purposes of TOC, >> cross-references, etc. (Word 2007 can also see the text in text boxes, >> for that matter, but that ability is not backward-compatible.) Because >> frames are sort of wrapped (though not in the drawing layer as text >> boxes are), they have to be anchored to a text paragraph, and they can >> sometimes wander in ways that are a pain to control. Tables (provided >> they don't become wrapped) will stay where you put them because they are >> in the text layer, part of the text flow. There are many excellent >> reasons to use frames, but when tables can be used instead and serve the >> purpose just as well, they are preferred. >> > Thank you very much Suzanne. > > > Word can see text in tables for the purposes of TOC, > > cross-references, etc. > > Is this one backward compatible to Word 2002? > > Jeff >
From: Kenb on 14 Mar 2010 21:04 I am trying to do documents with different pages and I cannot even get wordpad to give me a format to create a header and footer, page numbers the menu bar does not have any information. Please help this is for a college document. "Graham Mayor" wrote: > You could insert a text box or a frame in Word 2007, but really there is no > need to do so. Simply change the wrap if the image to something other than > in line with text and you can drag it around the page at will. > > -- > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > Graham Mayor - Word MVP > > My web site www.gmayor.com > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> > > > <Jeff(a)nospam.fake> wrote in message > news:uQz7Im0wKHA.3896(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > In word 2002 I learned to insert a frame into which I could place an image > > and its caption. This allowed me to position the image exactly where I > > wanted it on the page. > > How does one insert such a frame in Word 2007? > > Thanks. > > Jeff > > > . >
From: Doug Robbins - Word MVP on 14 Mar 2010 22:16 Wordpad does not have that capability. You need to use Word See the article "I want to include the chapter number with the page number in the Header - how can I do this?” at: http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering/ChapterNumber.htm -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com "Kenb" <Kenb(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:BF205E23-4749-4783-8239-173A6DF428B6(a)microsoft.com... > I am trying to do documents with different pages and I cannot even get > wordpad to give me a format to create a header and footer, page numbers > the > menu bar does not have any information. Please help this is for a college > document. > > "Graham Mayor" wrote: > >> You could insert a text box or a frame in Word 2007, but really there is >> no >> need to do so. Simply change the wrap if the image to something other >> than >> in line with text and you can drag it around the page at will. >> >> -- >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >> Graham Mayor - Word MVP >> >> My web site www.gmayor.com >> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >> >> >> <Jeff(a)nospam.fake> wrote in message >> news:uQz7Im0wKHA.3896(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> > In word 2002 I learned to insert a frame into which I could place an >> > image >> > and its caption. This allowed me to position the image exactly where I >> > wanted it on the page. >> > How does one insert such a frame in Word 2007? >> > Thanks. >> > Jeff >> >> >> . >>
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