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From: Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] on 23 Mar 2010 04:00 WOW my answer never showed up? well at least the others did :) Russ -- Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com Twitter http://www.twitter.com/SBITSdotBiz "a" <NOSPAM_electron(a)mail.htnet.hr> wrote in message news:ho9s2o$51q$1(a)ss408.t-com.hr... > Thanks to all the detailed answers. > Now I understand a lot more. > > -- > Electron > > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message > news:ObsGBmDyKHA.2552(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> 1.) In SBS 2008, there is no way to install or activate User or Device >> CALs for SBS. You simply buy them and keep them in a safe place. Your >> legal requirements don't change, however. You need one CAL for each user >> or device, and you can mix and match user and device CALs up to the 75 >> CAL limit. (A single user can have multiple devices, such as desktop, >> smartphone, and home machine. One User CAL required. OR, a single device, >> such as a shop floor terminal, can have multiple users connecting through >> it, without having to have User CALs for those users.) >> >> 2.) In SBS 2008 there are two levels of CAL - Standard and Premium. You >> only need Premium CALs for those users who access SQL Server. Premium >> CALs are inclusive of all rights of Standard CALs. So if you have 25 >> users, but only 10 of them actually use the LOB application that has a >> SQL Server back end, then you need 15 Standard CALs and 10 Premium CALs. >> (This ignores the User vs. Device question, covered in #1 above.) >> >> 3.) TS CALs are completely separate and are not covered by either level >> of SBS CAL. You will need a TS CAL for every User or Device that connects >> to a Terminal Server. The general rule for Terminal Servers is that they >> can be in Device Mode or User Mode, but not both, so if you only have a >> single Terminal Server, you have to make a choice which mode you'll use. >> In SBS 2008, you should run the TS Licensing role service directly on one >> of theTerminal Servers, and use explicit mapping to the License Server, >> rather than discovery. >> >> -- >> Charlie. >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel >> >> >> >> >> "Ace Fekay [MVP-DS, MCT]" <aceman(a)mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in >> message news:eQt2mJ9xKHA.4008(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> "a" <NOSPAM_electron(a)mail.htnet.hr> wrote in message >> news:ho0uc2$s7v$1(a)ss408.t-com.hr... >>>I installed a new SBS 2008 Premium. >>> I bought a pack of 5 additional user CAL for SBS 2008 Premium (PN: >>> 6VA-00544). >>> How do I install and activate additional user CAL-s on SBS 2008 Premium? >>> Whether these licenses are activated via Terminal Services >>> Configuration? >>> Is it the same as the Terminal Services CAL? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >> >> >> Since this is an SBS specific question, I cross-posted it for you to the >> SBS newsgroup, where those folks can possibly offer a more SBS-specific >> response. >> >> When you reply, please reply to all newsgroups cross-posted to so we can >> see the answer in both groups. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Ace >> >> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and >> confers no rights. >> >> Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit >> among responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your >> resolution. >> >> Ace Fekay, MVP, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE & >> MCSA 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003 >> Microsoft Certified Trainer >> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services >> >> If you feel this is an urgent issue and require immediate assistance, >> please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check >> http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers. >
From: Ace Fekay [MVP-DS, MCT] on 23 Mar 2010 10:38 "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message news:%23Q4bw7lyKHA.5576(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... Interesting. I didn't see your answers either. Hmm.... Newsgroup server issue! Ace > WOW my answer never showed up? > well at least the others did > :) > Russ > > -- > Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC > Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz > Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com > BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com > Twitter http://www.twitter.com/SBITSdotBiz > > "a" <NOSPAM_electron(a)mail.htnet.hr> wrote in message > news:ho9s2o$51q$1(a)ss408.t-com.hr... >> Thanks to all the detailed answers. >> Now I understand a lot more. >> >> -- >> Electron >> >> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message >> news:ObsGBmDyKHA.2552(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> 1.) In SBS 2008, there is no way to install or activate User or Device >>> CALs for SBS. You simply buy them and keep them in a safe place. Your >>> legal requirements don't change, however. You need one CAL for each user >>> or device, and you can mix and match user and device CALs up to the 75 >>> CAL limit. (A single user can have multiple devices, such as desktop, >>> smartphone, and home machine. One User CAL required. OR, a single device, >>> such as a shop floor terminal, can have multiple users connecting through >>> it, without having to have User CALs for those users.) >>> >>> 2.) In SBS 2008 there are two levels of CAL - Standard and Premium. You >>> only need Premium CALs for those users who access SQL Server. Premium >>> CALs are inclusive of all rights of Standard CALs. So if you have 25 >>> users, but only 10 of them actually use the LOB application that has a >>> SQL Server back end, then you need 15 Standard CALs and 10 Premium CALs. >>> (This ignores the User vs. Device question, covered in #1 above.) >>> >>> 3.) TS CALs are completely separate and are not covered by either level >>> of SBS CAL. You will need a TS CAL for every User or Device that connects >>> to a Terminal Server. The general rule for Terminal Servers is that they >>> can be in Device Mode or User Mode, but not both, so if you only have a >>> single Terminal Server, you have to make a choice which mode you'll use. >>> In SBS 2008, you should run the TS Licensing role service directly on one >>> of theTerminal Servers, and use explicit mapping to the License Server, >>> rather than discovery. >>> >>> -- >>> Charlie. >>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "Ace Fekay [MVP-DS, MCT]" <aceman(a)mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in >>> message news:eQt2mJ9xKHA.4008(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> "a" <NOSPAM_electron(a)mail.htnet.hr> wrote in message >>> news:ho0uc2$s7v$1(a)ss408.t-com.hr... >>>>I installed a new SBS 2008 Premium. >>>> I bought a pack of 5 additional user CAL for SBS 2008 Premium (PN: >>>> 6VA-00544). >>>> How do I install and activate additional user CAL-s on SBS 2008 Premium? >>>> Whether these licenses are activated via Terminal Services >>>> Configuration? >>>> Is it the same as the Terminal Services CAL? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>> >>> >>> Since this is an SBS specific question, I cross-posted it for you to the >>> SBS newsgroup, where those folks can possibly offer a more SBS-specific >>> response. >>> >>> When you reply, please reply to all newsgroups cross-posted to so we can >>> see the answer in both groups. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Ace >>> >>> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and >>> confers no rights. >>> >>> Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit >>> among responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your >>> resolution. >>> >>> Ace Fekay, MVP, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE & >>> MCSA 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003 >>> Microsoft Certified Trainer >>> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services >>> >>> If you feel this is an urgent issue and require immediate assistance, >>> please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check >>> http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers. >>
From: Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] on 23 Mar 2010 16:24 Maybe I'm black listed :) :) Russ -- Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com Twitter http://www.twitter.com/SBITSdotBiz "Ace Fekay [MVP-DS, MCT]" <aceman(a)mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message news:#E#tBapyKHA.1236(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message > news:%23Q4bw7lyKHA.5576(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > Interesting. I didn't see your answers either. Hmm.... Newsgroup server > issue! > > Ace > >> WOW my answer never showed up? >> well at least the others did >> :) >> Russ >> >> -- >> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] >> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC >> Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz >> Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com >> BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com >> Twitter http://www.twitter.com/SBITSdotBiz >> >> "a" <NOSPAM_electron(a)mail.htnet.hr> wrote in message >> news:ho9s2o$51q$1(a)ss408.t-com.hr... >>> Thanks to all the detailed answers. >>> Now I understand a lot more. >>> >>> -- >>> Electron >>> >>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in >>> message >>> news:ObsGBmDyKHA.2552(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> 1.) In SBS 2008, there is no way to install or activate User or Device >>>> CALs for SBS. You simply buy them and keep them in a safe place. Your >>>> legal requirements don't change, however. You need one CAL for each >>>> user >>>> or device, and you can mix and match user and device CALs up to the 75 >>>> CAL limit. (A single user can have multiple devices, such as desktop, >>>> smartphone, and home machine. One User CAL required. OR, a single >>>> device, >>>> such as a shop floor terminal, can have multiple users connecting >>>> through >>>> it, without having to have User CALs for those users.) >>>> >>>> 2.) In SBS 2008 there are two levels of CAL - Standard and Premium. You >>>> only need Premium CALs for those users who access SQL Server. Premium >>>> CALs are inclusive of all rights of Standard CALs. So if you have 25 >>>> users, but only 10 of them actually use the LOB application that has a >>>> SQL Server back end, then you need 15 Standard CALs and 10 Premium >>>> CALs. >>>> (This ignores the User vs. Device question, covered in #1 above.) >>>> >>>> 3.) TS CALs are completely separate and are not covered by either level >>>> of SBS CAL. You will need a TS CAL for every User or Device that >>>> connects >>>> to a Terminal Server. The general rule for Terminal Servers is that >>>> they >>>> can be in Device Mode or User Mode, but not both, so if you only have a >>>> single Terminal Server, you have to make a choice which mode you'll >>>> use. >>>> In SBS 2008, you should run the TS Licensing role service directly on >>>> one >>>> of theTerminal Servers, and use explicit mapping to the License Server, >>>> rather than discovery. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Charlie. >>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Ace Fekay [MVP-DS, MCT]" <aceman(a)mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in >>>> message news:eQt2mJ9xKHA.4008(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> "a" <NOSPAM_electron(a)mail.htnet.hr> wrote in message >>>> news:ho0uc2$s7v$1(a)ss408.t-com.hr... >>>>>I installed a new SBS 2008 Premium. >>>>> I bought a pack of 5 additional user CAL for SBS 2008 Premium (PN: >>>>> 6VA-00544). >>>>> How do I install and activate additional user CAL-s on SBS 2008 >>>>> Premium? >>>>> Whether these licenses are activated via Terminal Services >>>>> Configuration? >>>>> Is it the same as the Terminal Services CAL? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Since this is an SBS specific question, I cross-posted it for you to >>>> the >>>> SBS newsgroup, where those folks can possibly offer a more SBS-specific >>>> response. >>>> >>>> When you reply, please reply to all newsgroups cross-posted to so we >>>> can >>>> see the answer in both groups. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> Ace >>>> >>>> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and >>>> confers no rights. >>>> >>>> Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit >>>> among responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your >>>> resolution. >>>> >>>> Ace Fekay, MVP, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE >>>> & >>>> MCSA 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003 >>>> Microsoft Certified Trainer >>>> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services >>>> >>>> If you feel this is an urgent issue and require immediate assistance, >>>> please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check >>>> http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers. >>> > > > >
From: Larry Struckmeyer[SBS-MVP] on 23 Mar 2010 20:54 > Maybe I'm black listed :) Only your answers... your questions and suprised responses to said answers not showing up are allowed through. <g> - Larry Please post the resolution to your issue so others may benefit - Get Your SBS Health Check at www.sbsbpa.com > :) > Russ > "Ace Fekay [MVP-DS, MCT]" <aceman(a)mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in > message news:#E#tBapyKHA.1236(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >> "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in >> message news:%23Q4bw7lyKHA.5576(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> Interesting. I didn't see your answers either. Hmm.... Newsgroup >> server issue! >> >> Ace >> >>> WOW my answer never showed up? >>> well at least the others did >>> :) >>> Russ >>> -- >>> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] >>> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC >>> Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz >>> Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com >>> BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com >>> Twitter http://www.twitter.com/SBITSdotBiz >>> "a" <NOSPAM_electron(a)mail.htnet.hr> wrote in message >>> news:ho9s2o$51q$1(a)ss408.t-com.hr... >>> >>>> Thanks to all the detailed answers. >>>> Now I understand a lot more. >>>> -- >>>> Electron >>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in >>>> message >>>> news:ObsGBmDyKHA.2552(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>> 1.) In SBS 2008, there is no way to install or activate User or >>>>> Device >>>>> CALs for SBS. You simply buy them and keep them in a safe place. >>>>> Your >>>>> legal requirements don't change, however. You need one CAL for >>>>> each >>>>> user >>>>> or device, and you can mix and match user and device CALs up to >>>>> the 75 >>>>> CAL limit. (A single user can have multiple devices, such as >>>>> desktop, >>>>> smartphone, and home machine. One User CAL required. OR, a single >>>>> device, >>>>> such as a shop floor terminal, can have multiple users connecting >>>>> through >>>>> it, without having to have User CALs for those users.) >>>>> 2.) In SBS 2008 there are two levels of CAL - Standard and >>>>> Premium. You >>>>> only need Premium CALs for those users who access SQL Server. >>>>> Premium >>>>> CALs are inclusive of all rights of Standard CALs. So if you have >>>>> 25 >>>>> users, but only 10 of them actually use the LOB application that >>>>> has a >>>>> SQL Server back end, then you need 15 Standard CALs and 10 Premium >>>>> CALs. >>>>> (This ignores the User vs. Device question, covered in #1 above.) >>>>> 3.) TS CALs are completely separate and are not covered by either >>>>> level >>>>> of SBS CAL. You will need a TS CAL for every User or Device that >>>>> connects >>>>> to a Terminal Server. The general rule for Terminal Servers is >>>>> that >>>>> they >>>>> can be in Device Mode or User Mode, but not both, so if you only >>>>> have a >>>>> single Terminal Server, you have to make a choice which mode >>>>> you'll >>>>> use. >>>>> In SBS 2008, you should run the TS Licensing role service directly >>>>> on >>>>> one >>>>> of theTerminal Servers, and use explicit mapping to the License >>>>> Server, >>>>> rather than discovery. >>>>> -- >>>>> Charlie. >>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel >>>>> "Ace Fekay [MVP-DS, MCT]" <aceman(a)mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote >>>>> in >>>>> message news:eQt2mJ9xKHA.4008(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> "a" <NOSPAM_electron(a)mail.htnet.hr> wrote in message >>>>> news:ho0uc2$s7v$1(a)ss408.t-com.hr... >>>>>> I installed a new SBS 2008 Premium. >>>>>> I bought a pack of 5 additional user CAL for SBS 2008 Premium >>>>>> (PN: >>>>>> 6VA-00544). >>>>>> How do I install and activate additional user CAL-s on SBS 2008 >>>>>> Premium? >>>>>> Whether these licenses are activated via Terminal Services >>>>>> Configuration? >>>>>> Is it the same as the Terminal Services CAL? >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>> Since this is an SBS specific question, I cross-posted it for you >>>>> to >>>>> the >>>>> SBS newsgroup, where those folks can possibly offer a more >>>>> SBS-specific >>>>> response. >>>>> When you reply, please reply to all newsgroups cross-posted to so >>>>> we >>>>> can >>>>> see the answer in both groups. >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> >>>>> Ace >>>>> >>>>> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees >>>>> and confers no rights. >>>>> >>>>> Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration >>>>> benefit among responding engineers, and to help others benefit >>>>> from your resolution. >>>>> >>>>> Ace Fekay, MVP, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, >>>>> MCSE >>>>> & >>>>> MCSA 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003 >>>>> Microsoft Certified Trainer >>>>> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services >>>>> If you feel this is an urgent issue and require immediate >>>>> assistance, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers. >>>>>
From: Ace Fekay [MVP-DS, MCT] on 24 Mar 2010 10:17
"Larry Struckmeyer[SBS-MVP]" <lstruckmeyer(a)mis-wizards.com> wrote in message news:4e683515dc208cc98e22a3f7d1d(a)news.microsoft.com... > >> Maybe I'm black listed :) > > Only your answers... your questions and suprised responses to said answers > not showing up are allowed through. <g> > > - :-) Ace |