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From: a on 19 Mar 2010 18:36 I installed a new SBS 2008 Premium. I bought a pack of 5 additional user CAL for SBS 2008 Premium (PN: 6VA-00544). How do I install and activate additional user CAL-s on SBS 2008 Premium? Whether these licenses are activated via Terminal Services Configuration? Is it the same as the Terminal Services CAL? Thanks
From: Ace Fekay [MVP-DS, MCT] on 19 Mar 2010 22:09 "a" <NOSPAM_electron(a)mail.htnet.hr> wrote in message news:ho0uc2$s7v$1(a)ss408.t-com.hr... >I installed a new SBS 2008 Premium. > I bought a pack of 5 additional user CAL for SBS 2008 Premium (PN: > 6VA-00544). > How do I install and activate additional user CAL-s on SBS 2008 Premium? > Whether these licenses are activated via Terminal Services Configuration? > Is it the same as the Terminal Services CAL? > > Thanks > Since this is an SBS specific question, I cross-posted it for you to the SBS newsgroup, where those folks can possibly offer a more SBS-specific response. When you reply, please reply to all newsgroups cross-posted to so we can see the answer in both groups. Thank you, Ace This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and confers no rights. Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit among responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your resolution. Ace Fekay, MVP, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE & MCSA 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003 Microsoft Certified Trainer Microsoft MVP - Directory Services If you feel this is an urgent issue and require immediate assistance, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
From: SuperGumby [SBS MVP] on 20 Mar 2010 00:06 SBS CALs have nothing to do with TS CALs (it has been suggested to MS that a SKU with SBS Premium and TS CALs would suit some better than SBS + SQL CALs). The SBS Dev team very wisely removed any 'CAL conformance' application when designing SBS08. Windows cannot count standard CALs properly, let alone SBS CALs. There is no way to 'enter' SBS CALs into SBS08. There is no way for SBS08 to track CAL usage. You, and you alone, are responsible for ensuring your SBS is properly licensed. (which is as should be so) "Ace Fekay [MVP-DS, MCT]" <aceman(a)mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message news:eQt2mJ9xKHA.4008(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... "a" <NOSPAM_electron(a)mail.htnet.hr> wrote in message news:ho0uc2$s7v$1(a)ss408.t-com.hr... >I installed a new SBS 2008 Premium. > I bought a pack of 5 additional user CAL for SBS 2008 Premium (PN: > 6VA-00544). > How do I install and activate additional user CAL-s on SBS 2008 Premium? > Whether these licenses are activated via Terminal Services Configuration? > Is it the same as the Terminal Services CAL? > > Thanks > Since this is an SBS specific question, I cross-posted it for you to the SBS newsgroup, where those folks can possibly offer a more SBS-specific response. When you reply, please reply to all newsgroups cross-posted to so we can see the answer in both groups. Thank you, Ace This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and confers no rights. Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit among responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your resolution. Ace Fekay, MVP, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE & MCSA 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003 Microsoft Certified Trainer Microsoft MVP - Directory Services If you feel this is an urgent issue and require immediate assistance, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
From: Charlie Russel - MVP on 20 Mar 2010 10:27 1.) In SBS 2008, there is no way to install or activate User or Device CALs for SBS. You simply buy them and keep them in a safe place. Your legal requirements don't change, however. You need one CAL for each user or device, and you can mix and match user and device CALs up to the 75 CAL limit. (A single user can have multiple devices, such as desktop, smartphone, and home machine. One User CAL required. OR, a single device, such as a shop floor terminal, can have multiple users connecting through it, without having to have User CALs for those users.) 2.) In SBS 2008 there are two levels of CAL - Standard and Premium. You only need Premium CALs for those users who access SQL Server. Premium CALs are inclusive of all rights of Standard CALs. So if you have 25 users, but only 10 of them actually use the LOB application that has a SQL Server back end, then you need 15 Standard CALs and 10 Premium CALs. (This ignores the User vs. Device question, covered in #1 above.) 3.) TS CALs are completely separate and are not covered by either level of SBS CAL. You will need a TS CAL for every User or Device that connects to a Terminal Server. The general rule for Terminal Servers is that they can be in Device Mode or User Mode, but not both, so if you only have a single Terminal Server, you have to make a choice which mode you'll use. In SBS 2008, you should run the TS Licensing role service directly on one of theTerminal Servers, and use explicit mapping to the License Server, rather than discovery. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel "Ace Fekay [MVP-DS, MCT]" <aceman(a)mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message news:eQt2mJ9xKHA.4008(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... "a" <NOSPAM_electron(a)mail.htnet.hr> wrote in message news:ho0uc2$s7v$1(a)ss408.t-com.hr... >I installed a new SBS 2008 Premium. > I bought a pack of 5 additional user CAL for SBS 2008 Premium (PN: > 6VA-00544). > How do I install and activate additional user CAL-s on SBS 2008 Premium? > Whether these licenses are activated via Terminal Services Configuration? > Is it the same as the Terminal Services CAL? > > Thanks > Since this is an SBS specific question, I cross-posted it for you to the SBS newsgroup, where those folks can possibly offer a more SBS-specific response. When you reply, please reply to all newsgroups cross-posted to so we can see the answer in both groups. Thank you, Ace This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and confers no rights. Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit among responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your resolution. Ace Fekay, MVP, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE & MCSA 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003 Microsoft Certified Trainer Microsoft MVP - Directory Services If you feel this is an urgent issue and require immediate assistance, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
From: a on 23 Mar 2010 03:53
Thanks to all the detailed answers. Now I understand a lot more. -- Electron "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message news:ObsGBmDyKHA.2552(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > 1.) In SBS 2008, there is no way to install or activate User or Device > CALs for SBS. You simply buy them and keep them in a safe place. Your > legal requirements don't change, however. You need one CAL for each user > or device, and you can mix and match user and device CALs up to the 75 CAL > limit. (A single user can have multiple devices, such as desktop, > smartphone, and home machine. One User CAL required. OR, a single device, > such as a shop floor terminal, can have multiple users connecting through > it, without having to have User CALs for those users.) > > 2.) In SBS 2008 there are two levels of CAL - Standard and Premium. You > only need Premium CALs for those users who access SQL Server. Premium CALs > are inclusive of all rights of Standard CALs. So if you have 25 users, but > only 10 of them actually use the LOB application that has a SQL Server > back end, then you need 15 Standard CALs and 10 Premium CALs. (This > ignores the User vs. Device question, covered in #1 above.) > > 3.) TS CALs are completely separate and are not covered by either level of > SBS CAL. You will need a TS CAL for every User or Device that connects to > a Terminal Server. The general rule for Terminal Servers is that they can > be in Device Mode or User Mode, but not both, so if you only have a single > Terminal Server, you have to make a choice which mode you'll use. In SBS > 2008, you should run the TS Licensing role service directly on one of > theTerminal Servers, and use explicit mapping to the License Server, > rather than discovery. > > -- > Charlie. > http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel > > > > > "Ace Fekay [MVP-DS, MCT]" <aceman(a)mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in > message news:eQt2mJ9xKHA.4008(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > "a" <NOSPAM_electron(a)mail.htnet.hr> wrote in message > news:ho0uc2$s7v$1(a)ss408.t-com.hr... >>I installed a new SBS 2008 Premium. >> I bought a pack of 5 additional user CAL for SBS 2008 Premium (PN: >> 6VA-00544). >> How do I install and activate additional user CAL-s on SBS 2008 Premium? >> Whether these licenses are activated via Terminal Services Configuration? >> Is it the same as the Terminal Services CAL? >> >> Thanks >> > > > Since this is an SBS specific question, I cross-posted it for you to the > SBS newsgroup, where those folks can possibly offer a more SBS-specific > response. > > When you reply, please reply to all newsgroups cross-posted to so we can > see the answer in both groups. > > Thank you, > > Ace > > This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and > confers no rights. > > Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit > among responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your > resolution. > > Ace Fekay, MVP, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE & > MCSA 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003 > Microsoft Certified Trainer > Microsoft MVP - Directory Services > > If you feel this is an urgent issue and require immediate assistance, > please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check > http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers. |