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From: Yousuf Khan on 12 Jul 2006 15:49 Rod Speed wrote: > Richard Steiner <rsteiner(a)visi.com> wrote >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote > >>>> In the days of Windows 95, very few systems could boot from CD, > >>> Thats overstating it, quite a few could. > >> In 1995-1996, bootable CD support in the BIOS was quite rare. > > That particular Pavillion can tho and THATS what matters. But how specifically did that particular Pavillion do it? That also matters. Was there a boot-CD standard available at that time, or were they some kind of proprietary boot loaders, only recognized by one particular manufacturer or model? Yousuf Khan
From: Rod Speed on 12 Jul 2006 18:06 Yousuf Khan <bbbl67(a)yahoo.com> wrote > Rod Speed wrote >> Richard Steiner <rsteiner(a)visi.com> wrote >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote >>>>> In the days of Windows 95, very few systems could boot from CD, >>>> Thats overstating it, quite a few could. >>> In 1995-1996, bootable CD support in the BIOS was quite rare. >> That particular Pavillion can tho and THATS what matters. > But how specifically did that particular Pavillion do it? Just the usual way that became universal. > That also matters. Was there a boot-CD standard available at that time, Yes. > or were they some kind of proprietary boot loaders, only recognized by one particular > manufacturer or model? Nope, if that was what was done, the HP site would have said that.
From: Rod Speed on 12 Jul 2006 18:08 Yousuf Khan <bbbl67(a)yahoo.com> wrote > Rod Speed wrote >> Should be easy to test that possibility by trying to boot a Win distribution CD. > Well, we did try to boot from a burned Win XP CD for kicks, and it didn't boot off of > that either. Don't have any other copies of Win 95 or Win 98 lying around here anymore > to try out. Quite a few of the cdrom drives of that era didnt like burnt CDs. Easy to try that possibility by replacing it with a modern drive.
From: Unruh on 12 Jul 2006 18:32 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> writes: >Yousuf Khan <bbbl67(a)yahoo.com> wrote >> Rod Speed wrote >>> Richard Steiner <rsteiner(a)visi.com> wrote >>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote >>>>>> In the days of Windows 95, very few systems could boot from CD, >>>>> Thats overstating it, quite a few could. >>>> In 1995-1996, bootable CD support in the BIOS was quite rare. >>> That particular Pavillion can tho and THATS what matters. >> But how specifically did that particular Pavillion do it? >Just the usual way that became universal. >> That also matters. Was there a boot-CD standard available at that time, >Yes. As far as I know the boot standard was simply the floppy boot standard. Ie, the cdrom was/is just treated as if it were a floppy drive and the first sectors of the disk read off and jumped to. All this required was that the bios be able to read raw sectors from the device. >> or were they some kind of proprietary boot loaders, only recognized by one particular >> manufacturer or model? >Nope, if that was what was done, the HP site would have said that. Why would they have said that? Noone else who has a proprietary way of doing things makes a big deal of the fact that they are incompatible with everyone else.
From: John B on 12 Jul 2006 18:46
Rod Speed wrote: > bbbl67 <yjkhan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I just upgraded my brother's computer from Win XP to >> Ubuntu 5.10. It was an unbelievable success! It surprised >> even me how smoothly it went -- didn't need to go into the >> command-line even once. Linux has arrived, it seems. > > Nope, now try accessing NTFS formatted partitions on that. > Hmm, ntfs read is easy as. Not sure if its out of the box but I think it is. I even managed to delete files from an ntfs partition then resize the partition down to a smaller size so I could make a new linux partition. That was using ntfsprogs however, not so easy as just mounting a ntfs partition in RO mode. And this was on ubuntu 5.10 > Or even just FAT32 partitions. > Read/write at will <...> JB |