From: Yousuf Khan on
Rod Speed wrote:
> Richard Steiner <rsteiner(a)visi.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>> In the days of Windows 95, very few systems could boot from CD,
>
>>> Thats overstating it, quite a few could.
>
>> In 1995-1996, bootable CD support in the BIOS was quite rare.
>
> That particular Pavillion can tho and THATS what matters.

But how specifically did that particular Pavillion do it? That also
matters. Was there a boot-CD standard available at that time, or were
they some kind of proprietary boot loaders, only recognized by one
particular manufacturer or model?

Yousuf Khan
From: Rod Speed on
Yousuf Khan <bbbl67(a)yahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Richard Steiner <rsteiner(a)visi.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote

>>>>> In the days of Windows 95, very few systems could boot from CD,

>>>> Thats overstating it, quite a few could.

>>> In 1995-1996, bootable CD support in the BIOS was quite rare.

>> That particular Pavillion can tho and THATS what matters.

> But how specifically did that particular Pavillion do it?

Just the usual way that became universal.

> That also matters. Was there a boot-CD standard available at that time,

Yes.

> or were they some kind of proprietary boot loaders, only recognized by one particular
> manufacturer or model?

Nope, if that was what was done, the HP site would have said that.


From: Rod Speed on
Yousuf Khan <bbbl67(a)yahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> Should be easy to test that possibility by trying to boot a Win distribution CD.

> Well, we did try to boot from a burned Win XP CD for kicks, and it didn't boot off of
> that either. Don't have any other copies of Win 95 or Win 98 lying around here anymore
> to try out.

Quite a few of the cdrom drives of that era didnt like burnt CDs.

Easy to try that possibility by replacing it with a modern drive.


From: Unruh on
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> writes:

>Yousuf Khan <bbbl67(a)yahoo.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Richard Steiner <rsteiner(a)visi.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote

>>>>>> In the days of Windows 95, very few systems could boot from CD,

>>>>> Thats overstating it, quite a few could.

>>>> In 1995-1996, bootable CD support in the BIOS was quite rare.

>>> That particular Pavillion can tho and THATS what matters.

>> But how specifically did that particular Pavillion do it?

>Just the usual way that became universal.

>> That also matters. Was there a boot-CD standard available at that time,

>Yes.

As far as I know the boot standard was simply the floppy boot standard.
Ie, the cdrom was/is just treated as if it were a floppy drive and the
first sectors of the disk read off and jumped to. All this required was
that the bios be able to read raw sectors from the device.


>> or were they some kind of proprietary boot loaders, only recognized by one particular
>> manufacturer or model?

>Nope, if that was what was done, the HP site would have said that.

Why would they have said that? Noone else who has a proprietary way of
doing things makes a big deal of the fact that they are incompatible with
everyone else.




From: John B on
Rod Speed wrote:
> bbbl67 <yjkhan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I just upgraded my brother's computer from Win XP to
>> Ubuntu 5.10. It was an unbelievable success! It surprised
>> even me how smoothly it went -- didn't need to go into the
>> command-line even once. Linux has arrived, it seems.
>
> Nope, now try accessing NTFS formatted partitions on that.
>

Hmm, ntfs read is easy as. Not sure if its out of the box but I think it is.

I even managed to delete files from an ntfs partition then resize the
partition down to a smaller size so I could make a new linux partition.
That was using ntfsprogs however, not so easy as just mounting a ntfs
partition in RO mode.

And this was on ubuntu 5.10

> Or even just FAT32 partitions.
>
Read/write at will

<...>

JB
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