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From: Rod Speed on 9 Jul 2006 19:48 YKhan <yjkhan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The little lost angel wrote: >> I was trying out 5.1 so it came with 1.0.5 which I then attempted to >> upgrade to 1.5.04. > > Yeah, I found the same thing, Ubuntu 5.10 only seemed to make upto > Ffox/Tbird 1.0.5 available to you. Beyond that the latest versions of > Ffox/Tbird were only made available on Ubuntu 6.0 Dapper Drake. I'm > not sure why, it may simply have been a decision not to bother to > upgrade Ubuntu 5.10 beyond a certain level. I'm sure you can probably > find the source code for Ffox/Tbird, and make your own Ubuntu 5.10 > packages from it. Otherwise, just upgrade to Ubuntu 6.0. > >>> Digital cameras also work pretty well. >> >> Never bothered to try that, not even for Windows. I simply use a card >> reader. It's just SO much more convenient and hassle free without >> having to worry about any potential issues from the different cameras >> each of us have. :P > > Well, card readers seem to work pretty well too. It's just an USB > device, so so far I've not found any USB device that's not working in > at least its most generic level. Keyboards, mice, USB hubs, etc. > > I've even gotten his old Lexmark Z52 printer working right out of the > box. This was supposed to be one of those idiotic generations of > Winprinters, where the driver was only made available for Windows, > because a lot of the printer's functionality resided within that > driver. This is of course a totally unexpectedly pleasant surprise. I > had previously heard that with these Winprinters that I would have to > find a copy of the original Windows device driver and install it under > Linux and run it through a special Linux-Windows device driver > translator program; the fact that I had to do nothing of the sort was > pretty slick. I don't know if that's actually what's still happening > in the background, but the fact that I don't have to bother to figure > it out is absolutely sweet. :-) > > So far, the only inconvenience I've seen is what Rod Speed has been > talking about, regarding the mounting of the Windows filesystems. And > it's not that the GUI utility doesn't have a feature to allow NTFS > filesystems to be mounted. The feature exists in the GUI, but it just > doesn't seem to work properly -- so it's not that the developers > forgot to add the feature, they just haven't gotten it working right. > So it's an erratum in a feature, rather than a lack of a feature. The > workaround solution is simple enough, I just run the mount command > from a terminal window. It doesnt appear to be able to handle writes to NTFS file systems very well tho. Plenty wont have anything else now.
From: Dan N on 9 Jul 2006 21:16 On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 06:37:54 +1000, Rod Speed wrote: > bbbl67 <yjkhan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I just upgraded my brother's computer from Win XP to Ubuntu 5.10. It was >> an unbelievable success! It surprised even me how smoothly it went -- >> didn't need to go into the command-line even once. Linux has arrived, it >> seems. > > Nope, now try accessing NTFS formatted partitions on that. If Ubuntu Linux hasn't 'arrived' because it doesn't access ntfs, then by your logic XP hasn't 'arrived' because it can't access ext3. Dan
From: Rod Speed on 9 Jul 2006 22:48 Dan N <dan(a)localhost.localdomain> wrote > Rod Speed wrote >> bbbl67 <yjkhan(a)gmail.com> wrote >>> I just upgraded my brother's computer from Win XP to Ubuntu 5.10. >>> It was an unbelievable success! It surprised even me how smoothly >>> it went -- didn't need to go into the command-line even once. Linux >>> has arrived, it seems. >> Nope, now try accessing NTFS formatted partitions on that. > If Ubuntu Linux hasn't 'arrived' because it doesn't access ntfs, then > by your logic XP hasn't 'arrived' because it can't access ext3. Mindlessly silly when XP is completely dominates the personal desktop and ubuntu has gone out of its way to be useable by Win users.
From: Ed H. on 9 Jul 2006 22:58 On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:16:04 +0800, Dan N wrote: > On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 06:37:54 +1000, Rod Speed wrote: > >> bbbl67 <yjkhan(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I just upgraded my brother's computer from Win XP to Ubuntu 5.10. It was >>> an unbelievable success! It surprised even me how smoothly it went -- >>> didn't need to go into the command-line even once. Linux has arrived, it >>> seems. >> >> Nope, now try accessing NTFS formatted partitions on that. > > If Ubuntu Linux hasn't 'arrived' because it doesn't access ntfs, then by > your logic XP hasn't 'arrived' because it can't access ext3. XP can't even handle ext2. M$'s attitude WRT Linux is that any difficulty Windoze has with Linux file systems is entirely Linux's problem. Ed -- Registered Linux User #416016 Registered Linux Machine #323569
From: Dan N on 9 Jul 2006 23:29
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 12:48:59 +1000, Rod Speed wrote: > Mindlessly silly when XP is completely dominates the personal desktop and > ubuntu has gone out of its way to be useable by Win users. There are many important things that Linux needs to do in order to have 'arrived', and it's come a long way towards achieving those goals. Compatibility with a foreign operating system's files on the same hard disk is way, way done on the bottom of the list, if it's even on the list at all. Dual booting is something that is often done when new users evaluate linux, but it's not a requirement. I suggest that you install linux on it's own pc, without windows. You can then quite easily share windows files over the network. Dan |