Installing Windows XP to Lenovo Y730
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From: W on 23 Dec 2009 22:31 "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote in message news:hgumlf$l41$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > In news:jqWdnb44_5hLTK_WnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d(a)giganews.com, > W typed on Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:28:37 -0800: >> "W" <persistentone(a)spamarrest.com> wrote in message >> news:NKudnVZmTtNgV6_WnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>> I want to install a fresh Windows XP installation on a Lenovo Y730. > > This originally came with Vista. > >>> Apparently the Windows XP setup CD does not see the hard drive >>> controller on this notebook by default. What is the recommended >>> way to get the required device driver? > > Of course not. Vista comes with the SATA drivers. Windows XP does not. > Well unless it came with Windows XP in the first place. But you need the > recovery disc to begin with. > >>> Articles online talk about a "recovery CD" but in this case there is >>> nothing to "recover" because it is a fresh install. > > Don't recount the recovery disc. As it contains all of the drivers for > your make and model. The bad part is it probably also contains stuff you > do no want. > >> Does the Lenovo Y730 use Intel SATA ICH8M or ICH8R? > > I think they came with either. Why do you ask? As it is really tough > downgrading from Vista to XP. As in your case you need the SATA drivers > (or toggle a setting in the BIOS if you are luck). Then you need all of > the other drivers like sound card, WiFi,Ethernet, etc. If they don't > exist, you are just screwed. All understood. I'm not trying to "downgrade" from Vista to XP. I'm trying to install XP from scratch on an empty hard drive. The first driver I want to identify is the hard drive controller, because without that I cannot even get the XP installer to see the hard drive. > You can't take any machine and throw Windows XP on it. First you have to > make sure you can get all of the XP drivers for it first. That's clear. But I cannot be the only person on the planet who has attempt to install Windows XP to a Lenovo Y730, and maybe someone else who has already done it can tell me whether it is even possible to make the install work. -- W
From: W on 23 Dec 2009 22:33 "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote in message news:hgumuc$mmu$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > In news:PJOdnb0dHsEoQa_WnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d(a)giganews.com, > W typed on Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:15:00 -0800: >> "W" <persistentone(a)spamarrest.com> wrote in message >> news:NKudnVZmTtNgV6_WnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>> I want to install a fresh Windows XP installation on a Lenovo Y730. >>> Apparently the Windows XP setup CD does not see the hard drive >>> controller on this notebook by default. What is the recommended >>> way to get the required device driver? >>> >>> Articles online talk about a "recovery CD" but in this case there is >>> nothing to "recover" because it is a fresh install. >> >> When we download the IBM SATA RAID driver for the IdeaPad Y730 from >> the Lenovo web site, and use F6 on Windows XP setup to see the drives >> on a floppy, we are presented with four selections. No matter which >> one of the four we select, the Windows XP setup program blue screens >> at the end of the driver selection process. We are not able to >> proceed from that point on. >> Lenovo's technical support group was frighteningly incompetent. They >> didn't know that Lenovo had a Windows XP driver for the Y730 onboard >> SATA RAID controller. They didn't know that Windows XP install >> required a separate device driver to support the onboard SATA RAID. They >> didn't know any details of what kind of SATA RAID was in the >> Y730. > > A lot of people place a lot of trust in support. I don't! And this doesn't > surprise me in the least. At least did they speak English well? It sounded like the support center might have been in Mexico, and their English was fine. Their knowledge of computers in general and the specific computers I was calling about was not okay. Why can't Lenovo have an "expert support" line that you pay $95/hour to access? A competent technician could have given all needed information in one call, in less than 15 minutes. We spent two hours and ended up with nothing. -- W
From: BillW50 on 23 Dec 2009 22:40 In news:56-dnf6vZZQUfa_WnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d(a)giganews.com, W typed on Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:31:20 -0800: > "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote in message > news:hgumlf$l41$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> In news:jqWdnb44_5hLTK_WnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d(a)giganews.com, >> W typed on Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:28:37 -0800: >>> "W" <persistentone(a)spamarrest.com> wrote in message >>> news:NKudnVZmTtNgV6_WnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>> I want to install a fresh Windows XP installation on a Lenovo Y730. >> >> This originally came with Vista. >> >>>> Apparently the Windows XP setup CD does not see the hard drive >>>> controller on this notebook by default. What is the recommended >>>> way to get the required device driver? >> >> Of course not. Vista comes with the SATA drivers. Windows XP does >> not. Well unless it came with Windows XP in the first place. But you >> need the recovery disc to begin with. >> >>>> Articles online talk about a "recovery CD" but in this case there >>>> is nothing to "recover" because it is a fresh install. >> >> Don't recount the recovery disc. As it contains all of the drivers >> for your make and model. The bad part is it probably also contains >> stuff you do no want. >> >>> Does the Lenovo Y730 use Intel SATA ICH8M or ICH8R? >> >> I think they came with either. Why do you ask? As it is really tough >> downgrading from Vista to XP. As in your case you need the SATA >> drivers (or toggle a setting in the BIOS if you are luck). Then you >> need all of the other drivers like sound card, WiFi,Ethernet, etc. >> If they don't exist, you are just screwed. > > All understood. I'm not trying to "downgrade" from Vista to XP. I'm > trying to install XP from scratch on an empty hard drive. Yes I know. > The first driver I want to identify is the hard drive controller, > because without that I cannot even get the XP installer to see the > hard drive. Yes I know. Windows XP has no knowledge of SATA. That is problem one. The BIOS might be able to be changed to say it is really a IDE drive and that would work to get it installed. >> You can't take any machine and throw Windows XP on it. First you >> have to make sure you can get all of the XP drivers for it first. > > That's clear. But I cannot be the only person on the planet who > has attempt to install Windows XP to a Lenovo Y730, and maybe someone > else who has already done it can tell me whether it is even possible > to make the install work. Well the SATA part is the hardest. At least once you get past this point can you get it installed. -- Bill Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2
From: W on 23 Dec 2009 22:59 "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote in message news:hguns5$tr8$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > In news:56-dnf6vZZQUfa_WnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d(a)giganews.com, > W typed on Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:31:20 -0800: >> "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote in message >> news:hgumlf$l41$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> In news:jqWdnb44_5hLTK_WnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d(a)giganews.com, >>> W typed on Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:28:37 -0800: >>>> "W" <persistentone(a)spamarrest.com> wrote in message >>>> news:NKudnVZmTtNgV6_WnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>>> I want to install a fresh Windows XP installation on a Lenovo Y730. >>> >>> This originally came with Vista. >>> >>>>> Apparently the Windows XP setup CD does not see the hard drive >>>>> controller on this notebook by default. What is the recommended >>>>> way to get the required device driver? >>> >>> Of course not. Vista comes with the SATA drivers. Windows XP does >>> not. Well unless it came with Windows XP in the first place. But you >>> need the recovery disc to begin with. >>> >>>>> Articles online talk about a "recovery CD" but in this case there >>>>> is nothing to "recover" because it is a fresh install. >>> >>> Don't recount the recovery disc. As it contains all of the drivers >>> for your make and model. The bad part is it probably also contains >>> stuff you do no want. >>> >>>> Does the Lenovo Y730 use Intel SATA ICH8M or ICH8R? >>> >>> I think they came with either. Why do you ask? As it is really tough >>> downgrading from Vista to XP. As in your case you need the SATA >>> drivers (or toggle a setting in the BIOS if you are luck). Then you >>> need all of the other drivers like sound card, WiFi,Ethernet, etc. >>> If they don't exist, you are just screwed. >> >> All understood. I'm not trying to "downgrade" from Vista to XP. I'm >> trying to install XP from scratch on an empty hard drive. > > Yes I know. > >> The first driver I want to identify is the hard drive controller, >> because without that I cannot even get the XP installer to see the >> hard drive. > > Yes I know. Windows XP has no knowledge of SATA. That is problem one. The > BIOS might be able to be changed to say it is really a IDE drive and that > would work to get it installed. With the Dell Precision series workstations - all of which use similar Intel SATA RAID drivers - you can install Windows XP. You simply press F6 during XP setup and select the appropriate Intel driver from a floppy. So XP does appear to be well able to work with the Intel SATA RAID chipset, if you load the right driver. Following the same sequence with the Lenovo IdeaPad Y730 appears to give a blue screen of death. -- W
From: BillW50 on 23 Dec 2009 23:02
In news:VN-dnVC3-rxgfa_WnZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d(a)giganews.com, W typed on Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:33:17 -0800: > "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote in message > news:hgumuc$mmu$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> A lot of people place a lot of trust in support. I don't! And this >> doesn't surprise me in the least. At least did they speak English >> well? > > It sounded like the support center might have been in Mexico, and > their English was fine. Oh that is pretty rare. I guess lucky you. <grin> > Their knowledge of computers in general and > the specific computers I was calling about was not okay. That is pretty common. > Why can't Lenovo have an "expert support" line that you pay $95/hour > to access? A competent technician could have given all needed > information in one call, in less than 15 minutes. We spent two > hours and ended up with nothing. You would pay $25 for all of your answers in 15 minutes? If yes, that was easy years ago. But all of the cost cutting and all, all of those people are now gone. Nowadays you have to deal with people (usually in other lands) who don't really know much about computers and if they are good (which doesn't mean much) and can read troubleshooting flow charts. Which means even a homeless person on the streets might qualify (if they can read English). <sigh> -- Bill Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2 |