Installing old Windows XP on a Dell Inspiron Mini?
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From: BillW50 on 18 Sep 2009 10:56 In news:uLNIq1GOKHA.4580(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl, Ant typed on Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:36:30 -0700: > On 9/18/2009 7:08 AM PT, BillW50 typed: > >>>>> Please kindly reread what I said in my original post about >>>>> slipstreamed SP2 and SP3 CDs. :) >>>> I read it fine the first time, you said you tried. So what does >>>> that mean? You tried and failed or what? It that is what is sounds >>>> like to me. As without SP2/3 correctly slipstreamed into the >>>> install, it will fail to see files on the CD after the install >>>> resets the USB ports. As you had stated, the file is really there >>>> on the CD, is it not? >>> Yes, the \i386\asms and its files are there. I already tried >>> installing them (slipstreamed SP2 and SP3 CDs) on regular desktop >>> PCs without any issues. I wonder if XP is just too old for this >>> netbook since installing Windows 7 had no problems? >> >> When you tried on a regular desktop PC, you didn't use the USB CD >> drive, did you? If not, that would make perfect sense. As non-USB >> drives don't require SP2/3 to install correctly, only USB drives do. >> Thus why I believe your slipstream for whatever reason didn't work. > > That was with the external USB CD/DVD drive. How can I verify if > slipstream was good or bad? Okay I am convinced that it is a good slipstream if it worked on the desktop with the USB CD/DVD drive. 1) Some BIOS has a toggle to install an OS. Once the operating system is installed, you are supposed to toggle it back. I am not sure what this is supposed to do. Prevent MBR modification or lock the USB at 1.1 speeds or something. 2) Could be bad RAM. If you can swap it with some other I would try this. 3) Could be a bad drive like David already mentioned. 4) Don't think the USB CD/DVD drive or disc is bad. But if this drive has two USB plugs, try plugging them both in. What make and model is this drive anyway? Some can have problems on some netbooks. And no Windows XP should be perfect on this netbook, as long as the system/boot drive has enough room. -- Bill Windows 2000 SP4 (5.00.2195) Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
From: Daave on 18 Sep 2009 11:04 Ant wrote: > On 9/18/2009 7:15 AM PT, Daave typed: > >> Ant wrote: >>> Hello. >>> >>> I am trying to install Windows XP cleanly onto an used Dell Inspiron >>> Mini (no idea what model it is; do not have its boxes, manuals, >>> discs, etc.), but its installation keeps failing at >>> cdrom0\i386\asms. The error said it cannot find it, but it is there >>> on the CDs (tried slipstreamed SP2 and SP3, other brands, other >>> burns from other software and drives, etc.). I have to install from >>> an external CD/DVD drive. >>> I researched on Google, and it seems like this a common problem >>> (error message) but none of their suggestions worked. One >>> interesting suggestion was to press shift-F10 keys when the error >>> occurs so I did that to bring up a command prompt/cmd.exe. From >>> here, to do registry edits with regedit but regedit.exe fails to >>> run (not installed yet I think). I also couldn't find the drive >>> (only found the HDD). It seems like during the blue text installer, >>> the drive exists but after rebooting to GUI installer, it forgot >>> the external USB CD/DVD drive? I cannot make a new partition/drive, >>> to install from another drive >>> on the same HDD) because the netbook only has 7 GB excluding its >>> 100 MB system drive (Dell stuff). >>> >>> I had no problems installing Windows 7 though. Any ideas? Thank you >>> in advance. :) >> >> Do you have a SATA hard drive? Do you have the necessary drivers for >> it? > > Maybe? I don't much about this netbook (new to it too). I will have to > find the hardware datas from Windows 7 installation since that worked. Go to the Dell Web site (support section) and enter your Service Tag number. You will be able to determine what all your components are (including your hard drive). You will be able to determine if there are XP-specific drivers for your hardware components. If they don't exist, I'm afraid you won't be able to run XP on this particular PC. >> Are you trying to install XP Home or XP Pro? > > Pro SP2/3. >> What OS did the Inspiron Mini come with? If it came with XP, simply >> use the hidden recovery partition. > > No idea. Hidden recovery only has diagnostics. Hence, 100 MB only. You have no idea what OS this PC came with?! Did you buy it second-hand or get it as a promotional freebie? There should be a Certificate of Authenticity sticker somewhere on it (the bottom, most mikely). That will tell you what OS came with it. I'm guessing Vista. >> If it came with Vista, you may be out of luck. That is, although any >> Dell XP installation CD (Home or Pro, but because of your 7GB hard >> drive limitation, a genuine Dell disk at the SP3 level would be a >> godsend) could work, the hardware might not support it. Go to Dell's >> support site and you will learn whether or not there are any >> XP-specific drivers for your model. Be careful if your Dell XP CD >> isn't at SP3 and if you plan on slipstreaming because the process is >> a bit trickier than with regular XP CDs. >> >> (Then again, there might be potential licensing issues, too.) > > Bummer, even with retail XP CDs? No, because a retail CD comes with its own license.
From: Ant on 18 Sep 2009 11:10 On 9/18/2009 7:56 AM PT, BillW50 typed: > In news:uLNIq1GOKHA.4580(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl, > Ant typed on Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:36:30 -0700: >> On 9/18/2009 7:08 AM PT, BillW50 typed: >> >>>>>> Please kindly reread what I said in my original post about >>>>>> slipstreamed SP2 and SP3 CDs. :) >>>>> I read it fine the first time, you said you tried. So what does >>>>> that mean? You tried and failed or what? It that is what is sounds >>>>> like to me. As without SP2/3 correctly slipstreamed into the >>>>> install, it will fail to see files on the CD after the install >>>>> resets the USB ports. As you had stated, the file is really there >>>>> on the CD, is it not? >>>> Yes, the \i386\asms and its files are there. I already tried >>>> installing them (slipstreamed SP2 and SP3 CDs) on regular desktop >>>> PCs without any issues. I wonder if XP is just too old for this >>>> netbook since installing Windows 7 had no problems? >>> When you tried on a regular desktop PC, you didn't use the USB CD >>> drive, did you? If not, that would make perfect sense. As non-USB >>> drives don't require SP2/3 to install correctly, only USB drives do. >>> Thus why I believe your slipstream for whatever reason didn't work. >> That was with the external USB CD/DVD drive. How can I verify if >> slipstream was good or bad? > > Okay I am convinced that it is a good slipstream if it worked on the > desktop with the USB CD/DVD drive. > > 1) Some BIOS has a toggle to install an OS. Once the operating system is > installed, you are supposed to toggle it back. I am not sure what this > is supposed to do. Prevent MBR modification or lock the USB at 1.1 > speeds or something. Hmm. Wouldn't that problem occurred much earlier like during XP's text installer screens? > 2) Could be bad RAM. If you can swap it with some other I would try > this. Hmm. Wouldn't Windows 7 had failed or error'ed? > 3) Could be a bad drive like David already mentioned. Could be, but then Windows 7 would had failed too? > > 4) Don't think the USB CD/DVD drive or disc is bad. But if this drive > has two USB plugs, try plugging them both in. What make and model is > this drive anyway? Some can have problems on some netbooks. Only one on each one external USB DVD drives. One was a Lenovo DVD burner drive and other was an old HP DVD burner drive. > And no Windows XP should be perfect on this netbook, as long as the > system/boot drive has enough room. Odd. -- "Number fourteen. The naughty bits of an ant." --Monty Python's Flying Circus /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: philpi(a)earthlink.netANT ( ) or ANTant(a)zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer.
From: Ant on 18 Sep 2009 11:13 On 9/18/2009 8:04 AM PT, Daave typed: > Go to the Dell Web site (support section) and enter your Service Tag > number. You will be able to determine what all your components are > (including your hard drive). You will be able to determine if there are > XP-specific drivers for your hardware components. If they don't exist, > I'm afraid you won't be able to run XP on this particular PC. OK, I will try that later since I do not have the netbook with me. >>> Are you trying to install XP Home or XP Pro? >> Pro SP2/3. > >>> What OS did the Inspiron Mini come with? If it came with XP, simply >>> use the hidden recovery partition. >> No idea. Hidden recovery only has diagnostics. Hence, 100 MB only. > > You have no idea what OS this PC came with?! Did you buy it second-hand > or get it as a promotional freebie? There should be a Certificate of > Authenticity sticker somewhere on it (the bottom, most mikely). That > will tell you what OS came with it. I'm guessing Vista. It was from someone else for me to install XP. Oh I did see a Dell authenticity sticker on the bottom of the Dell Mini, but didn't read what OS it said (if it says it). Yeah, probably Vista. >>> If it came with Vista, you may be out of luck. That is, although any >>> Dell XP installation CD (Home or Pro, but because of your 7GB hard >>> drive limitation, a genuine Dell disk at the SP3 level would be a >>> godsend) could work, the hardware might not support it. Go to Dell's >>> support site and you will learn whether or not there are any >>> XP-specific drivers for your model. Be careful if your Dell XP CD >>> isn't at SP3 and if you plan on slipstreaming because the process is >>> a bit trickier than with regular XP CDs. >>> >>> (Then again, there might be potential licensing issues, too.) >> Bummer, even with retail XP CDs? > > No, because a retail CD comes with its own license. OK. -- "I once heard the survivors of a colony of ants that had been partially obliterated by a cow's foot seriously debating the intention of the gods towards their civilization" --Archy the Cockroach from Don Marquis' "Archy and Mehitabel" book ("Certain Maxims of Archy" poem) /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: philpi(a)earthlink.netANT ( ) or ANTant(a)zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer.
From: Daave on 18 Sep 2009 11:33
Ant wrote: > On 9/18/2009 8:04 AM PT, Daave typed: > >> Go to the Dell Web site (support section) and enter your Service Tag >> number. You will be able to determine what all your components are >> (including your hard drive). You will be able to determine if there >> are XP-specific drivers for your hardware components. If they don't >> exist, I'm afraid you won't be able to run XP on this particular PC. > > OK, I will try that later since I do not have the netbook with me. > > >>>> Are you trying to install XP Home or XP Pro? >>> Pro SP2/3. >> >>>> What OS did the Inspiron Mini come with? If it came with XP, simply >>>> use the hidden recovery partition. >>> No idea. Hidden recovery only has diagnostics. Hence, 100 MB only. >> >> You have no idea what OS this PC came with?! Did you buy it >> second-hand or get it as a promotional freebie? There should be a >> Certificate of Authenticity sticker somewhere on it (the bottom, >> most mikely). That will tell you what OS came with it. I'm guessing >> Vista. > > It was from someone else for me to install XP. Oh I did see a Dell > authenticity sticker on the bottom of the Dell Mini, but didn't read > what OS it said (if it says it). Yeah, probably Vista. I did a little more research. If I'm not mistaken, this Dell probably did come preinstalled with XP (otherwise, it would have been Linux). The COA sticker I'm talking about is Windows, not Dell. If the Dell has a license to run Windows XP, it's a shame you had to waste money on another XP license (when you bought the Retail CD). Since there is no optical drive built-in, I'm sure there are certain issues you need to address first. Since I have no experience with this model, I suggest you look here: http://www.mydellmini.com/forum/windows-xp-netbook-guides/ and here: http://www.mydellmini.com/forum/ especially, here: http://www.mydellmini.com/forum/windows-xp/ What is the complete model name? (I've seen references to 9, 10, 10v, and 12.) >>>> If it came with Vista, you may be out of luck. That is, although >>>> any Dell XP installation CD (Home or Pro, but because of your 7GB >>>> hard drive limitation, a genuine Dell disk at the SP3 level would >>>> be a godsend) could work, the hardware might not support it. Go to >>>> Dell's support site and you will learn whether or not there are any >>>> XP-specific drivers for your model. Be careful if your Dell XP CD >>>> isn't at SP3 and if you plan on slipstreaming because the process >>>> is a bit trickier than with regular XP CDs. >>>> >>>> (Then again, there might be potential licensing issues, too.) >>> Bummer, even with retail XP CDs? >> >> No, because a retail CD comes with its own license. > > OK. |