From: Richard in AZ on

"Ant" <ant(a)zimage.comANT> wrote in message news:eY4U7IHOKHA.4336(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| On 9/18/2009 7:56 AM PT, BillW50 typed:
|
| > In news:uLNIq1GOKHA.4580(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
| > Ant typed on Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:36:30 -0700:
| >> On 9/18/2009 7:08 AM PT, BillW50 typed:
| >>
| >>>>>> Please kindly reread what I said in my original post about
| >>>>>> slipstreamed SP2 and SP3 CDs. :)
| >>>>> I read it fine the first time, you said you tried. So what does
| >>>>> that mean? You tried and failed or what? It that is what is sounds
| >>>>> like to me. As without SP2/3 correctly slipstreamed into the
| >>>>> install, it will fail to see files on the CD after the install
| >>>>> resets the USB ports. As you had stated, the file is really there
| >>>>> on the CD, is it not?
| >>>> Yes, the \i386\asms and its files are there. I already tried
| >>>> installing them (slipstreamed SP2 and SP3 CDs) on regular desktop
| >>>> PCs without any issues. I wonder if XP is just too old for this
| >>>> netbook since installing Windows 7 had no problems?
| >>> When you tried on a regular desktop PC, you didn't use the USB CD
| >>> drive, did you? If not, that would make perfect sense. As non-USB
| >>> drives don't require SP2/3 to install correctly, only USB drives do.
| >>> Thus why I believe your slipstream for whatever reason didn't work.
| >> That was with the external USB CD/DVD drive. How can I verify if
| >> slipstream was good or bad?
| >
| > Okay I am convinced that it is a good slipstream if it worked on the
| > desktop with the USB CD/DVD drive.
| >
| > 1) Some BIOS has a toggle to install an OS. Once the operating system is
| > installed, you are supposed to toggle it back. I am not sure what this
| > is supposed to do. Prevent MBR modification or lock the USB at 1.1
| > speeds or something.
|
| Hmm. Wouldn't that problem occurred much earlier like during XP's text
| installer screens?
|
|
| > 2) Could be bad RAM. If you can swap it with some other I would try
| > this.
|
| Hmm. Wouldn't Windows 7 had failed or error'ed?
|
|
| > 3) Could be a bad drive like David already mentioned.
|
| Could be, but then Windows 7 would had failed too?
|
| >
| > 4) Don't think the USB CD/DVD drive or disc is bad. But if this drive
| > has two USB plugs, try plugging them both in. What make and model is
| > this drive anyway? Some can have problems on some netbooks.
|
| Only one on each one external USB DVD drives. One was a Lenovo DVD
| burner drive and other was an old HP DVD burner drive.
|
|
| > And no Windows XP should be perfect on this netbook, as long as the
| > system/boot drive has enough room.
|
| Odd.
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Does the Dell Mini have a STAT or IDE drive? Do you have the drivers on the USB for SATA?
Can you get to the BIOS and reset the basic from SATA to IDE?


From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on
Use the hidden Recovery partition to reinstall Windows to OOBE state. It
includes all the appropriate drivers.

Ant wrote:
> Yes, 100 MB. Why? Is that a problem?
>
> On 9/17/2009 11:07 PM PT, PA Bear [MS MVP] typed:
>> Is there a hidden Recovery partition?
>
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>> I am trying to install Windows XP cleanly onto an used Dell Inspiron
>> Mini (no idea what model it is; do not have its boxes, manuals, discs,
>> etc.), but its installation keeps failing at cdrom0\i386\asms. The error
>> said it cannot find it, but it is there on the CDs (tried slipstreamed
>> SP2 and SP3, other brands, other burns from other software and drives,
>> etc.). I have to install from an external CD/DVD drive.
>>
>> I researched on Google, and it seems like this a common problem (error
>> message) but none of their suggestions worked. One interesting
>> suggestion was to press shift-F10 keys when the error occurs so I did
>> that to bring up a command prompt/cmd.exe. From here, to do registry
>> edits with regedit but regedit.exe fails to run (not installed yet I
>> think). I also couldn't find the drive (only found the HDD). It seems
>> like during the blue text installer, the drive exists but after
>> rebooting to GUI installer, it forgot the external USB CD/DVD drive?
>>
>> I cannot make a new partition/drive, to install from another drive on
>> the same HDD) because the netbook only has 7 GB excluding its 100 MB
>> system drive (Dell stuff).
>>
>> I had no problems installing Windows 7 though. Any ideas? Thank you in
>> advance. :)

From: Harry on
On Sep 17, 10:44 pm, Ant <a...(a)zimage.comANT> wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I am trying to install Windows XP cleanly onto an used Dell Inspiron
> Mini
....
> I have to install from an external CD/DVD drive.
....
> I cannot make a new partition/drive, to install from another drive on
> the same HDD) because the netbook only has 7 GB excluding its 100 MB
> system drive (Dell stuff).

Never say never.
It would be the way I would go.

A skim down (using nLite) version of XP install media could
be as small as 500 MB.

Here is now.

1. prepare a bootable USB finger with UBCD4Win installed,
plus the following goodies added.
- Partition Magic
- XP install media copied to a folder on the USB finger
2. Boot up Dell Mini with this bootable UBCD4Win USB gadet
3. Run Partition Magic to create two partitions
- 1st partition is 6 GB
- 2nd partition is 1 GB
4. Reboot with this bootable UBCD4Win USB finger
Now C: drive is 6GB empty; D: drive is 1 GB empty.
Copy the XP install media folder from your USB finder
to drive D:.
5. On a cmd prompt, run setup on D: drive.
6. If you are lucky enough, XP should be able to install.
Because the XP install media is local on the 7GB
HDD.

Personally, I would not attempt to install XP on a 7GB HDD.
Too small. But if you want that way, go ahead.


From: Ant on
OK, I will try that. How do I get there though?


On 9/18/2009 10:00 AM PT, PA Bear [MS MVP] typed:

> Use the hidden Recovery partition to reinstall Windows to OOBE state.
> It includes all the appropriate drivers.
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action, not even the queen ant, but ant behavior is controlled by swarm
logic--put 10,000 dumb ants together, and they become smart. They will
calculate the shortest routes to food supplies sniffing out pheromone
signals from other ants and Johnson says people do the same thing in
cities using low-level interactions of people on the street." --Alex
Cukan, "Stories of modern science," United Press International, October
8, 2001
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On 9/18/2009 8:46 AM PT, Richard in AZ typed:
>
> Does the Dell Mini have a STAT or IDE drive? Do you have the drivers on the USB for SATA?
> Can you get to the BIOS and reset the basic from SATA to IDE?

Don't know. Will need to check, but need to check next week. Didn't have
time to look at it today. :(
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