From: quasi on
be described as
sickening: targeting a citizen (a veteran, no less) who committed no crime
AND EVEN HAD NO CRIMINAL RECORD (but had politically incorrect views) for
blackmail, then acting vengefully when he wouldn't act as their rat fink.

Shoot-to-kill. Sniper team. Military fatigues.

A terrorizing organization: how else to explain the cruel cruel taunting.

A terrorist organization by virtue of shoot-to-kill orders.


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Waco.

Gun charges.

The deaths of all those people were 80% the fault of the government.

I say that even though I believe the Koreshians set the fire.

You'd go mad too after screaming dying rabbits are blasted into your dreams
every night, and in the end were attacked by five hours of toxic tear gas.

You would literally be trapped in hell with the devil pointing guns at you.

Some of the reasons for 30% of the blame:

o The mandatory documentation of the raid plan was never distributed.

o The warrant they were to serve was also left behind.

"We don't need no stinkin' warrants"

o It is well-documented that David Koresh had left the complex many
times while under the surveillance of as many as eight A.T.F. agents.

o The F.B.I. cut off all utilities and sanitation. Government loudspeakers
blared nonstop with such sounds as jet planes, and the cries of rabbits
being slaughtered. [I have three loving bunnies who have free roam
inside my apartment: the Feds are sick puppies. What would the public
have thought if it were dying cats or


From: tchow on
putting in my bookshelf.
I don't remember the bomb-making details in it. I have a vague impression of a
lot of squiggly lines, suitable for a really bad coloring book. I also
purchased a variety of odd privacy-related publications from Eden Press.

What is the Official Federal Dangerous Book List?
What books did they check on for their 'Library Awareness Program'?
How was it determined these books made people dangerous?
Who approved this Fahrenheit 451 persecuted-for-books program?


The Thought Police had testified in court against Ed Cummings.


The judge rules on whether Ed is guilty of probation violation:

> The judge determined that a probation violation had indeed taken place
> and that Cummings should be held and a sentencing date scheduled within
> 60 days. The judge had just done the same thing for a man who had just
> committed his third DWI offense. In fact, he had killed someone. The
> judge ordered that person held on $50,000 bail. Ed Cummings, however,
> was another matter. The judge ordered Cummings held on $250,000.
>
> So Cummings was being held on a quarter of a million dollars because he
> was thought to have taken batteries out of a tone


From: Risto Lankinen on
for each.

NSA's spying operations are so massive and all encompassing, and the
maintenance burden for interfacing to all the latest equipment now so high,
that they have had to come out in the open and lie lie lie to get CALEA.

We need CALEA to prevent crime and catch terrorists like a hole in the head.


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At the same time Stafford Beer was trying to get a grip on the Chilean
economy, the U.S. was trying to destroy it.

* http://ursula.blythe.org/NameBase
*
* Uribe, Armando. The Black Book of American Intervention in Chile. Boston:
* Beacon Press, 1975. 163 pages. Translated from Spanish by Jonathan Casart.
*
* Chile is a well-documented example of covert destabilization by the U.S.,
* and NameBase includes several books on the subject. The CIA had been
* passing out money since 1964 to influence elections in Chile, but Salvador
* Allende won the presidency in 1970 anyway.
*
* Under orders from Nixon and Kissinger, a broad economic blockade was then
* launched in conjunction with U.S. multinationals (ITT, Kennecott, Anaconda)
* and banks (Inter-American Development Bank, World Bank).
*
* According to notes taken by CIA director Richard Helms at a 1970 meeting
* in the Oval Office, his orders were to
*
* "make the economy scream."
*
* Street demonstrations and various dirty tricks were paid for by the CIA
* over the next three years to increase pressure.

The cybernetic project died when Allende was assassinated in late 1973.


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Conclusions
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We have been subject to an imperfect feedback loop form of government
for several decades now. Po


From: Nick Wedd on
each card.

They wouldn't use 'machine vision' to identify people, would they?

They would never take our picture from a video camera and use it for a
completely different surveillance purpose, would they?

* "Police Use of Yearbooks Draws Protest From the Schools"
* By Lawrence Van Gelder, The New York Times, March 28 1997
*
* A storm of protest burst yesterday around a Police Department memo that
* orders every detective squad in New York City to collect yearbooks from
* the high schools and junior high schools in its precinct as an aid in
* investigations.
*
* For mugshots.
*
* Lionel Oglesby, 15, of Brooklyn, a sophomore at Washington Irving High
* School in Manhatten, said, "If I haven't done anything wrong, why should
* my picture be taken? Just the thought of having my picture in the Police
* Department makes me uncomfortable.
*
* Another student [NBC TV] said "They've ruined my high school memories that
* the yearbook represented. When I see my yearbook now, that's all I think
* about."
*
* Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, a former Federal Prosecutor, said the yearbooks
* had no constitutional protection. "Too bad. It's not illegal," he said
* at a City Hall news conference on NY1 TV.


What is this?

* "E-Z Pass Living Up To Its Name", By Jane Gross, NYT, 3/25/1997
*
* 570,000 people have decided to use the new E


From: Christian Siebert on
unregulated cryptography legislation is a beginning baby-step.

Otherwise it might take another civil war. The NSA will not let go quietly.

Sound over-the-top? Wait until you understand the massive surveillance system
that our government has put in place, just how powerful it is, and how they've
used it repeatedly to control lawful peaceful political protest.


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Part 1: Massive Domestic Spying via NSA ECHELON
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o The NSA Admits
o Secret Court
o Wild Conspiracy Theory
o Over the Top
o BAM-BAM-BAM
o Australian ECHELON Spotted
o New Zealand: Unhappy Campers


People are correct in being paranoid of the
U.S. government being totally out of control.

The NSA/FBI even have a locked secre