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From: Vjekoslav on 19 Feb 2010 08:59 Didn't mean to offend you PA Bear! Come on, no hard feelings, just put yourself in a position of one asking whatever. "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> napisao u poruci diskusione grupe:#bKLX0PsKHA.6004(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > /These/ are "crasy guys" => > http://members.fortunecity.com/delanay/snl54.jpg > > PS: ur spiel chukkers broke > > > Vjekoslav wrote: >> This PA Bear is a crasy guy. What kind of a question is that : May I ask >> you >> why you....... x64 win...??? What do ya' care why somebody did this or >> that.A man is asking a question, if you can't give him an answer, please, >> don't ask a stupid questiones, It's not up to you, man!!! >> >> "Nathan Sokalski" <njsokalski(a)hotmail.com> napisao u poruci diskusione >> grupe:8C0B3379-BFDB-4F2C-A1B4-AAB8794B0CF9(a)microsoft.com... >>> I recently moved to Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit. I have noticed that there >>> are two copies of Internet Explorer 8 on the machine, located at the >>> following locations: >>> >>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming >>> this >>> is a 32-bit version) >>> C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this is >>> the >>> 64-bit version) >>> >>> First of all, why did Windows 7 install both versions? And second, is >>> there any difference between them? I have tried running both of them, >>> and >>> I have not noticed any difference, and I am assuming that there is not >>> supposed to be any noticeable difference. However, because 64-bit is >>> supposed to be better than 32-bit and one of these is designed for >>> 64-bit, >>> I would like to have everything use that if possible. I have changed any >>> shortcuts on my Desktop and Start Menu to use the 64-bit version, but I >>> am >>> a little bit hesitant to change some of the values in the Registry that >>> specifically specify the 32-bit version. Can anyone answer any of these >>> questions and/or give me some information on some of what I can and/or >>> should do about it? Thanks. >>> -- >>> Nathan Sokalski >>> njsokalski(a)hotmail.com >>> http://www.nathansokalski.com/ >
From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on 19 Feb 2010 10:46 No problem and my gibe about your spelling was all in fun, too. Vjekoslav wrote: > Didn't mean to offend you PA Bear! Come on, no hard feelings, just put > yourself in a position of one asking whatever. > >> /These/ are "crasy guys" => >> http://members.fortunecity.com/delanay/snl54.jpg >> >> PS: ur spiel chukkers broke >> >> >> Vjekoslav wrote: >>> This PA Bear is a crasy guy...
From: R. C. White on 20 Feb 2010 17:33 Hi, Nathan. Sorry for the delayed response. I was at the MVP Global Summit this week. Like you, I prefer to be near - but probably not quite at - the leading edge. I have only one computer, so when it comes time to upgrade, I like to get as near state-of-the-art as I can. When I built my current rig at the end of 2006, after we finished the Vista beta and it went RTM, I made sure my new mobo/CPU were 64 X2 models, with 2 GB of PC-6400 RAM, since upped to 4 GB. The machine is not quite SOTA now, but still quite enough for my current needs. So I agree with your Reasons 1 and 3. But your Reason 2 is not correct. ALL versions of Win7 are available in both 32-bit and 64-bit editions, but some versions don't have both disks in the retail box. Many OEMs bundle only one version with their hardware, and that is increasingly the 64-bit version. Ultimate x64 is the only version of Win7 I've used, except for a minor bit of testing. Win7 does come with BOTH 32-bit and 64-bit versions in the retail box. All versions of Win7 include 32-bit IE8. Win7 32-bit has only the 32-bit version of IE8, of course, since the 64-bit version will not run in 32-bit Windows. But, as I said: Win7 64-bit comes with BOTH versions of IE8 on the DVD-ROM; both versions will run in 64-bit; Win x64 defaults to the 32-bit version of IE8; the Win7 x64 user has several ways to run 64-bit IE8. RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX rc(a)grandecom.net Microsoft Windows MVP Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64 "Nathan Sokalski" <njsokalski(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:0C4B1E6F-9270-4500-B79A-E0B23A0880AF(a)microsoft.com... > The reason I am using a 64-bit version of Windows is because: > > 1. That is the version that came with my new computer > 2. I believe 64-bit is the only version of Windows 7 Ultimate that exists > (although I'd have to double-check > 3. I wanted to move forward, and since most my stuff works on 64-bit (and > the few things that don't, well, I'm in the tech field, so I enjoy > figuring out how to make it work or what would make a good workaround or > alternative) I saw no reason to wait > > Is there something that you have against 64-bit? The only people that I > thought had a problem with it were some of the hardware and plug-in makers > that decided to wait so long to make 64-bit drivers and updates. 64-bit > isn't new, even though not a lot of people used them, there were 64-bit > versions of XP and Vista, so I would think that most hardware makers would > offer some kind of 64-bit driver and places like Adobe would have made a > 64-bit version of stuff like Flash that virtually everyone uses. But I'm a > patient person, I enjoy looking for workarounds and alternatives, I'm a > patient person, and Microsoft was smart enough to give Windows 7 users a > 32 and 64-bit version of IE8, so what do I have to complain about? > -- > Nathan Sokalski > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:#sbVFAUrKHA.4492(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> May I ask why you purchased a 64-bit version of Windows? >> >> The bulk of this KB article pertains to Windows 7, too: >> >> A description of the differences between 32-bit versions of Windows >> Vista and 64-bit versions of Windows Vista: >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946765 >> >> You should familiarize yourself with this FAQ: >> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/32-bit-and-64-bit-Windows-frequently-asked-questions >> >> More: >> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/thread/babaa5f8-ff06-4ea2-aef6-a9416d65f981 >> >> >> Nathan Sokalski wrote: >>> I recently moved to Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit. I have noticed that there >>> are >>> two copies of Internet Explorer 8 on the machine, located at the >>> following >>> locations: >>> >>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming >>> this is >>> a 32-bit version) >>> C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this is >>> the >>> 64-bit version) >>> >>> First of all, why did Windows 7 install both versions? And second, is >>> there >>> any difference between them? I have tried running both of them, and I >>> have >>> not noticed any difference, and I am assuming that there is not supposed >>> to >>> be any noticeable difference. However, because 64-bit is supposed to be >>> better than 32-bit and one of these is designed for 64-bit, I would like >>> to >>> have everything use that if possible. I have changed any shortcuts on my >>> Desktop and Start Menu to use the 64-bit version, but I am a little bit >>> hesitant to change some of the values in the Registry that specifically >>> specify the 32-bit version. Can anyone answer any of these questions >>> and/or >>> give me some information on some of what I can and/or should do about >>> it? >>> Thanks.
From: Nathan Sokalski on 21 Feb 2010 00:19 It's certainly good to know that there are other people that want to stay current in the modern tech. Thanks for clearing up my knowledge about the availability of 32 and 64 bit versions of Windows 7. I think I've figured out why the 32-bit version of IE8 is the default. Many plug-ins and add-ons refuse to work in the 64-bit version (some of them even from Microsoft!). I guess I'll have to deal with that for a while just like everyone else and use the 32-bit version for those things. I just wish when I did come across something in IE8 64-bit that wants one of those plug-ins that it would tell me that a 64-bit version of the plug-in is not available instead of asking me if I want to install the plug-in when it isn't even compatible with my browser and it's just going to keep asking me everytime I visit the page with IE8 64-bit anyway. I'm actually quite surprised that some plug-ins don't have compatible versions yet, since probably 1/2 the sites on the web use them (such as Flash). Anyway, thanks for your response, and hopefully some of these places will start moving into 64-bit once more people buy new computers with Windows 7 64-Bit preinstalled. -- Nathan Sokalski njsokalski(a)hotmail.com http://www.nathansokalski.com/ "R. C. White" <rc(a)grandecom.net> wrote in message news:uSQMAznsKHA.3408(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hi, Nathan. > > Sorry for the delayed response. I was at the MVP Global Summit this week. > > Like you, I prefer to be near - but probably not quite at - the leading > edge. I have only one computer, so when it comes time to upgrade, I like > to get as near state-of-the-art as I can. When I built my current rig at > the end of 2006, after we finished the Vista beta and it went RTM, I made > sure my new mobo/CPU were 64 X2 models, with 2 GB of PC-6400 RAM, since > upped to 4 GB. The machine is not quite SOTA now, but still quite enough > for my current needs. So I agree with your Reasons 1 and 3. > > But your Reason 2 is not correct. ALL versions of Win7 are available in > both 32-bit and 64-bit editions, but some versions don't have both disks > in the retail box. Many OEMs bundle only one version with their hardware, > and that is increasingly the 64-bit version. Ultimate x64 is the only > version of Win7 I've used, except for a minor bit of testing. Win7 does > come with BOTH 32-bit and 64-bit versions in the retail box. All versions > of Win7 include 32-bit IE8. Win7 32-bit has only the 32-bit version of > IE8, of course, since the 64-bit version will not run in 32-bit Windows. > But, as I said: Win7 64-bit comes with BOTH versions of IE8 on the > DVD-ROM; both versions will run in 64-bit; Win x64 defaults to the 32-bit > version of IE8; the Win7 x64 user has several ways to run 64-bit IE8. > > RC > -- > R. C. White, CPA > San Marcos, TX > rc(a)grandecom.net > Microsoft Windows MVP > Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64 > > "Nathan Sokalski" <njsokalski(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:0C4B1E6F-9270-4500-B79A-E0B23A0880AF(a)microsoft.com... >> The reason I am using a 64-bit version of Windows is because: >> >> 1. That is the version that came with my new computer >> 2. I believe 64-bit is the only version of Windows 7 Ultimate that exists >> (although I'd have to double-check >> 3. I wanted to move forward, and since most my stuff works on 64-bit (and >> the few things that don't, well, I'm in the tech field, so I enjoy >> figuring out how to make it work or what would make a good workaround or >> alternative) I saw no reason to wait >> >> Is there something that you have against 64-bit? The only people that I >> thought had a problem with it were some of the hardware and plug-in >> makers that decided to wait so long to make 64-bit drivers and updates. >> 64-bit isn't new, even though not a lot of people used them, there were >> 64-bit versions of XP and Vista, so I would think that most hardware >> makers would offer some kind of 64-bit driver and places like Adobe would >> have made a 64-bit version of stuff like Flash that virtually everyone >> uses. But I'm a patient person, I enjoy looking for workarounds and >> alternatives, I'm a patient person, and Microsoft was smart enough to >> give Windows 7 users a 32 and 64-bit version of IE8, so what do I have to >> complain about? >> -- >> Nathan Sokalski >> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:#sbVFAUrKHA.4492(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> May I ask why you purchased a 64-bit version of Windows? >>> >>> The bulk of this KB article pertains to Windows 7, too: >>> >>> A description of the differences between 32-bit versions of Windows >>> Vista and 64-bit versions of Windows Vista: >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946765 >>> >>> You should familiarize yourself with this FAQ: >>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/32-bit-and-64-bit-Windows-frequently-asked-questions >>> >>> More: >>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/thread/babaa5f8-ff06-4ea2-aef6-a9416d65f981 >>> >>> >>> Nathan Sokalski wrote: >>>> I recently moved to Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit. I have noticed that >>>> there are >>>> two copies of Internet Explorer 8 on the machine, located at the >>>> following >>>> locations: >>>> >>>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming >>>> this is >>>> a 32-bit version) >>>> C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this is >>>> the >>>> 64-bit version) >>>> >>>> First of all, why did Windows 7 install both versions? And second, is >>>> there >>>> any difference between them? I have tried running both of them, and I >>>> have >>>> not noticed any difference, and I am assuming that there is not >>>> supposed to >>>> be any noticeable difference. However, because 64-bit is supposed to be >>>> better than 32-bit and one of these is designed for 64-bit, I would >>>> like to >>>> have everything use that if possible. I have changed any shortcuts on >>>> my >>>> Desktop and Start Menu to use the 64-bit version, but I am a little bit >>>> hesitant to change some of the values in the Registry that specifically >>>> specify the 32-bit version. Can anyone answer any of these questions >>>> and/or >>>> give me some information on some of what I can and/or should do about >>>> it? >>>> Thanks. >
From: R. C. White on 21 Feb 2010 22:42
Hi, Nathan. > Many plug-ins and add-ons refuse to work in the 64-bit version (some of > them even from Microsoft!). Correct. And I griped about those (again) to Microsoft at the Summit. I got more excuses and rationalizations than promises of fixes. :>( > I just wish when I did come across something in IE8 64-bit that wants one > of those plug-ins that it would tell me that a 64-bit version of the > plug-in is not available instead of asking me if I want to install the > plug-in when it isn't even compatible with my browser and it's just going > to keep asking me everytime I visit the page with IE8 64-bit anyway. Agreed! 100%! RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX rc(a)grandecom.net Microsoft Windows MVP Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64 "Nathan Sokalski" <njsokalski(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:264E1F54-76F7-46FB-82C4-6266486CB964(a)microsoft.com... > It's certainly good to know that there are other people that want to stay > current in the modern tech. Thanks for clearing up my knowledge about the > availability of 32 and 64 bit versions of Windows 7. I think I've figured > out why the 32-bit version of IE8 is the default. Many plug-ins and > add-ons refuse to work in the 64-bit version (some of them even from > Microsoft!). I guess I'll have to deal with that for a while just like > everyone else and use the 32-bit version for those things. I just wish > when I did come across something in IE8 64-bit that wants one of those > plug-ins that it would tell me that a 64-bit version of the plug-in is not > available instead of asking me if I want to install the plug-in when it > isn't even compatible with my browser and it's just going to keep asking > me everytime I visit the page with IE8 64-bit anyway. I'm actually quite > surprised that some plug-ins don't have compatible versions yet, since > probably 1/2 the sites on the web use them (such as Flash). Anyway, thanks > for your response, and hopefully some of these places will start moving > into 64-bit once more people buy new computers with Windows 7 64-Bit > preinstalled. > -- > Nathan Sokalski > njsokalski(a)hotmail.com > http://www.nathansokalski.com/ > > "R. C. White" <rc(a)grandecom.net> wrote in message > news:uSQMAznsKHA.3408(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Hi, Nathan. >> >> Sorry for the delayed response. I was at the MVP Global Summit this >> week. >> >> Like you, I prefer to be near - but probably not quite at - the leading >> edge. I have only one computer, so when it comes time to upgrade, I like >> to get as near state-of-the-art as I can. When I built my current rig at >> the end of 2006, after we finished the Vista beta and it went RTM, I made >> sure my new mobo/CPU were 64 X2 models, with 2 GB of PC-6400 RAM, since >> upped to 4 GB. The machine is not quite SOTA now, but still quite enough >> for my current needs. So I agree with your Reasons 1 and 3. >> >> But your Reason 2 is not correct. ALL versions of Win7 are available in >> both 32-bit and 64-bit editions, but some versions don't have both disks >> in the retail box. Many OEMs bundle only one version with their >> hardware, and that is increasingly the 64-bit version. Ultimate x64 is >> the only version of Win7 I've used, except for a minor bit of testing. >> Win7 does come with BOTH 32-bit and 64-bit versions in the retail box. >> All versions of Win7 include 32-bit IE8. Win7 32-bit has only the 32-bit >> version of IE8, of course, since the 64-bit version will not run in >> 32-bit Windows. But, as I said: Win7 64-bit comes with BOTH versions of >> IE8 on the DVD-ROM; both versions will run in 64-bit; Win x64 defaults to >> the 32-bit version of IE8; the Win7 x64 user has several ways to run >> 64-bit IE8. >> >> RC >> >> "Nathan Sokalski" <njsokalski(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:0C4B1E6F-9270-4500-B79A-E0B23A0880AF(a)microsoft.com... >>> The reason I am using a 64-bit version of Windows is because: >>> >>> 1. That is the version that came with my new computer >>> 2. I believe 64-bit is the only version of Windows 7 Ultimate that >>> exists (although I'd have to double-check >>> 3. I wanted to move forward, and since most my stuff works on 64-bit >>> (and the few things that don't, well, I'm in the tech field, so I enjoy >>> figuring out how to make it work or what would make a good workaround or >>> alternative) I saw no reason to wait >>> >>> Is there something that you have against 64-bit? The only people that I >>> thought had a problem with it were some of the hardware and plug-in >>> makers that decided to wait so long to make 64-bit drivers and updates. >>> 64-bit isn't new, even though not a lot of people used them, there were >>> 64-bit versions of XP and Vista, so I would think that most hardware >>> makers would offer some kind of 64-bit driver and places like Adobe >>> would have made a 64-bit version of stuff like Flash that virtually >>> everyone uses. But I'm a patient person, I enjoy looking for workarounds >>> and alternatives, I'm a patient person, and Microsoft was smart enough >>> to give Windows 7 users a 32 and 64-bit version of IE8, so what do I >>> have to complain about? >>> -- >>> Nathan Sokalski >>> >>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:#sbVFAUrKHA.4492(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> May I ask why you purchased a 64-bit version of Windows? >>>> >>>> The bulk of this KB article pertains to Windows 7, too: >>>> >>>> A description of the differences between 32-bit versions of Windows >>>> Vista and 64-bit versions of Windows Vista: >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946765 >>>> >>>> You should familiarize yourself with this FAQ: >>>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/32-bit-and-64-bit-Windows-frequently-asked-questions >>>> >>>> More: >>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/thread/babaa5f8-ff06-4ea2-aef6-a9416d65f981 >>>> >>>> >>>> Nathan Sokalski wrote: >>>>> I recently moved to Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit. I have noticed that >>>>> there are >>>>> two copies of Internet Explorer 8 on the machine, located at the >>>>> following >>>>> locations: >>>>> >>>>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming >>>>> this is >>>>> a 32-bit version) >>>>> C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this is >>>>> the >>>>> 64-bit version) >>>>> >>>>> First of all, why did Windows 7 install both versions? And second, is >>>>> there >>>>> any difference between them? I have tried running both of them, and I >>>>> have >>>>> not noticed any difference, and I am assuming that there is not >>>>> supposed to >>>>> be any noticeable difference. However, because 64-bit is supposed to >>>>> be >>>>> better than 32-bit and one of these is designed for 64-bit, I would >>>>> like to >>>>> have everything use that if possible. I have changed any shortcuts on >>>>> my >>>>> Desktop and Start Menu to use the 64-bit version, but I am a little >>>>> bit >>>>> hesitant to change some of the values in the Registry that >>>>> specifically >>>>> specify the 32-bit version. Can anyone answer any of these questions >>>>> and/or >>>>> give me some information on some of what I can and/or should do about >>>>> it? >>>>> Thanks. |