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From: Lawrence Haber on 15 Jan 2010 11:58 JimH <JimH(a)invalid.net> wrote: > R. C. White wrote: > > Hi, Gordon. > > > > Thanks for that link! > > > > Not only did I learn some things from Patzer's interview in the first > > two segments, but I enjoyed the 3rd segment on Adm. Grace Hopper, too. > > > > I'm one of the folks in the demographic that Patzer is discussing > > (condescendingly and disparagingly?), of course, and I share the > > reluctance of many (most?) Quicken users to have my financial data at > > the FAR end of my Ethernet cable rather than here in my converted > > bedroom. -------- -----------snip--------------------------- > > > > In any case, it's better to be able to see it coming than to be > > blindsided in a few years. > > > > RC > > The article also says that Quicken has 10 to 12 million customers who > generate $100 million in revenue. While MINT attracts younger users who > get it for free. Heck, make Quicken free, and I'll bet it will attract > more customers also. Of course, the revenue might take a hit. > > I like this part of the article.... During the TV interview, Patzer got > in a dig at Quicken, whose cumbersome operation he has said helped > inspire him to create Mint. Quicken appealed to an "anal-retentive-type > personality who wanted to make sure everything was penny perfect," he said. > > I wonder if he is the anal retentive type, or if it would be OK for me > to be off a few pennies when I buy the next version of Quicken. > $59.99.... Sure, here is the $.99. Write off the rest as less than penny > perfect. We wouldn't want to be anal retentive about the price. What a jerk! > > Well, I'll keep buying Quicken as long as it is available in the current > form. But, I sure won't be buying any Intuit stock. > -- > Jim Well, please read this blog posting from Patzer. http://blog.quicken.intuit.com/product-update/2009/12/21/confessions-of- a-mac-convert/ Have a look at the comments as well. The man is an idiot and he thinks his "customers" are jerks and speaks to us as such. As a Mac user, I'm supposed to think this guy is really cool because he just recently converted to the Mac and because there's all sorts of eye candy in the incredably dumbed down "Quicken" "essentials" product that can't do much of anything other than draw some useless graphs. Dear Quicken for Windows users: look at this new "Quicken" "Essentials" product for the Mac and don't snicker-its YOUR future.
From: Richard on 15 Jan 2010 12:45 R.C. I like you am: "I'm one of the folks in the demographic that Patzer is discussing (condescendingly and disparagingly?), of course, and I share the reluctance of many (most?) Quicken users to have my financial data at the FAR end of my Ethernet cable rather than here in my converted bedroom." Me thinks that the morons at Intuit and Mint just issued a competitive challenge to some enterprising individual(s) to come up with a new "desktop" product. Until the network and operating system "gurus" can come up with a safe and secure internet, I'll keep my stuff at home, Thank you. I've been struggling lately with dealing with various companies "tech support" departments. With arrogant "sob's" like Patzer and the rest of the IT worlds executives, it's no wonder the tech support is so "crappy" to the extent of almost being nonexistent. I get much quicker, clearer, and responsive information for forums and newsgroups like this. At least peer-to-peer support is made up of knowledgeable people who enjoy volunteering their time to help others. We knew this day was coming, but I sure hate to see it. -- Thank You, Richard "R. C. White" <rc(a)grandecom.net> wrote in message news:D-idnXSe2PzT483WnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d(a)posted.grandecom... > Hi, Gordon. > > Thanks for that link! > > Not only did I learn some things from Patzer's interview in the first two > segments, but I enjoyed the 3rd segment on Adm. Grace Hopper, too. > > I'm one of the folks in the demographic that Patzer is discussing > (condescendingly and disparagingly?), of course, and I share the > reluctance of many (most?) Quicken users to have my financial data at the > FAR end of my Ethernet cable rather than here in my converted bedroom. > But my tendency is to wait and watch developments before making my > decision. Perhaps before the end of the 5-or-so-year transition phase-out > of Quicken desktop there will be something even more suitable - for me - > than what I could choose from today. So, I'll keep using Quicken for now > and keep watching for the next stepping-stone, whether a newer Quicken or > Mint or a step in another direction. > > In any case, it's better to be able to see it coming than to be blindsided > in a few years. > > RC > -- > R. C. White, CPA > San Marcos, TX > (Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.) > rc(a)grandecom.net > Microsoft Windows MVP > (Using Quicken Deluxe 2010 and Windows Live Mail in Win7 x64) > > "Gordon Potter" wrote in message > news:uro0l5pq4aaqnt8v4dq5li301898hnfart(a)4ax.com... >> OnLine Quicken in a few weeks, Software 5 years max. >> >> I expect Quicken 2011 for Windows to be the last version - unless they >> choose to skip 2011 and make a 2012 version. >> >> I doubt there will be any new Mac versions. >> >> http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jan2010/tc2010018_451437.htm >> >> - >> Email will be: >> 2Cybers at gmail-dot-com >> >> Gordon Potter >> Atlanta, GA >> USA >
From: Don on 15 Jan 2010 12:46 "Gordon Potter" wrote in message news:uro0l5pq4aaqnt8v4dq5li301898hnfart(a)4ax.com... > OnLine Quicken in a few weeks, Software 5 years max. > > I expect Quicken 2011 for Windows to be the last version - unless they > choose to skip 2011 and make a 2012 version. > > I doubt there will be any new Mac versions. > > http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jan2010/tc2010018_451437.htm > > - > Email will be: > 2Cybers at gmail-dot-com > > Gordon Potter > Atlanta, GA > USA Well this is one anal retentive older user, that will NOT be converting to any sort of online financial management system. I will continue to use Quicken for my desktop as long as it is available and supported, when it is not I will then either change to hopefully another desktop software brand that will do the same ( hopefully someone will step up to the plate), or I will no longer use anything other than my online banking's website. -- Don
From: XS11E on 15 Jan 2010 14:01 "Keith Snyder" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: > Check out GnuCash for Windows. It has a steep learning curve, but > it does work. It has failed to import properly for me. -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
From: John on 15 Jan 2010 17:02
Gordon Potter wrote: > OnLine Quicken in a few weeks, Software 5 years max. > > I expect Quicken 2011 for Windows to be the last version - unless they > choose to skip 2011 and make a 2012 version. > > I doubt there will be any new Mac versions. > > http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jan2010/tc2010018_451437.htm > > - > Email will be: > 2Cybers at gmail-dot-com > > Gordon Potter > Atlanta, GA > USA I think Mr. Patzer will find that those older users he so maligns are the only ones that will pay for the product that keeps him in business. The 20 year old folk that helped him build Mint will not pay $50 for something they have gotten for free for these many years. This loss of revenue will not appeal to those on the board that tend to be those old folks that keep him employed. 5 years (or more) is a long way out and my guess is Mr. Patzer will be long gone from Intuit by then so he can take his arrogance and lofty ideas else ware. He does have a good product in Mint and Intuit could stand to make some changes to the Quicken product. Quicken online was not worth the effort I am sure. However, Quicken is a stabilized product that does generate revenue and I can believe that it will be a hard sell to eliminate it entirely. The catch is that Quickbooks is the real money maker for Intuit so the focus my lay there for them. Just my nickels worth. john |