From: Don Stauffer on
Bret Cahill wrote:
> Whenever some idiot on a science or tech tries to bluff he is more
> worthwhile than Al Gore in a dust devil, just ask him for his patent
> numbers.
>
> Inventing is no longer optional.
>
>
> Bret Cahill
>
>
One problem for us whose work was largely on DOD contracts, the
government automatically owned all the work and discoveries. Ended up
with zero patents when I retired. Hope that doesn't mean my work had
zero value. On the other hand, another figure of merit is list of
published papers. Have a fair number of those, since there are
classified journals.
From: Bob Eld on

"Don Stauffer" <stauffer(a)usfamily.net> wrote in message
news:4b6ad34c$0$1336$815e3792(a)news.qwest.net...
> Bret Cahill wrote:
> > Whenever some idiot on a science or tech tries to bluff he is more
> > worthwhile than Al Gore in a dust devil, just ask him for his patent
> > numbers.
> >
> > Inventing is no longer optional.
> >
> >
> > Bret Cahill
> >
> >
> One problem for us whose work was largely on DOD contracts, the
> government automatically owned all the work and discoveries. Ended up
> with zero patents when I retired. Hope that doesn't mean my work had
> zero value. On the other hand, another figure of merit is list of
> published papers. Have a fair number of those, since there are
> classified journals.

I can relate to that. I worked for the Navy and the CIA on various
clandestine "gadgets" over the years none of which ever got patented. I have
one, count 'em, one patent to my name and that was for a capacitive coupling
device that to me seemed totally obvious and unworthy of a patent. You might
say I reinvented the capacitor! Yet the patent office granted a patent on
it. Many patents are absurd these days, its about money, not invention and
even a bent piece of wire may garner a patent depending on the claims. There
are several perpetual motion patents as ridiculous as that is. There is no
requirement that a patent works.


From: Helpful person on
On Feb 4, 7:40 am, "Bob Eld" <nsmontas...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Don Stauffer" <stauf...(a)usfamily.net> wrote in message
>
> news:4b6ad34c$0$1336$815e3792(a)news.qwest.net...
>
>
>
> > Bret Cahill wrote:
> > > Whenever some idiot on a science or tech tries to bluff he is more
> > > worthwhile than Al Gore in a dust devil, just ask him for his patent
> > > numbers.
>
> > > Inventing is no longer optional.
>
> > > Bret Cahill
>
> > One problem for us whose work was largely on DOD contracts, the
> > government automatically owned all the work and discoveries.  Ended up
> > with zero patents when I retired.  Hope that doesn't mean my work had
> > zero value.  On the other hand, another figure of merit is list of
> > published papers.  Have a fair number of those, since there are
> > classified journals.
>
> I can relate to that. I worked for the Navy and the CIA on various
> clandestine "gadgets" over the years none of which ever got patented. I have
> one, count 'em, one patent to my name and that was for a capacitive coupling
> device that to me seemed totally obvious and unworthy of a patent. You might
> say I reinvented the capacitor! Yet the patent office granted a patent on
> it. Many patents are absurd these days, its about money, not invention and
> even a bent piece of wire may garner a patent depending on the claims. There
> are several perpetual motion patents as ridiculous as that is. There is no
> requirement that a patent works.

I can top that. I have a patent for the achromatic doublet. True it
is for a specific application and included new ideas, but it's still
an achromatic doublet.

http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=GB&NR=2323679&KC=&FT=E

www.richardfisher.com
From: Bret Cahill on
> > > >Whenever some idiot on a science or tech tries to bluff he is more
> > > >worthwhile than Al Gore in a dust devil, just ask him for his patent
> > > >numbers.
>
> > > >Inventing is no longer optional.
>
> > > >Bret Cahill
>
> > > Apparently making sense is still optional.
>
> > Five or 6 years ago some woman on BBC explained the new reality:
>
> > "Anything less than genius just won't do."
>
>    Then you should throw your computer in the trash, and learn to live
> with your sub 70 ID10T quotient while learning basket weaving.

When you go to the supermarket put all the ice cream and chips you
ordinarily buy into your shopping cart as usual. Then go to the
produce section and buy collards.

Just before you get to the checkout put the icecream and chips on the
discretionary spending display stand.

They'll send a clerk to save the icecream before it melts.


Bret Cahill




From: Mark Thorson on
Bob Eld wrote:
>
> Many patents are absurd these days, its about money, not invention and
> even a bent piece of wire may garner a patent depending on the claims.

It's not a bent piece of wire, you fool! It's an advanced
geosensor for detecting subterranean flows of water!
(Also useful for finding lost objects.)
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