From: Veli-Pekka Nousiainen on 5 Oct 2006 08:40 Gene wrote: > Veli-Pekka Nousiainen wrote: >> Gene wrote: >>> eddie_1970(a)comcast.net wrote: >>> >>>> I just >>>> really would like to see HP bring back the HP15c. For a new HP15c I >>>> would be will to pay $100 - 150. >>> >>> Then there's the market question...how many people will pay $150 >>> for a calculator without alphanumerics and with only ~400 bytes of >>> program space? >> >> Who sayz it has to have that little memory? >> I don't think that it's even possible to have that little today :-) > > Gene: Ah, so you don't really want HP to bring back the HP15c. That's > what everyone keeps saying. What they must mean is a modified ! HP15c. > > But, that means even MORE re-engineering and modifications and time > and $$ and ... > > makes it even less likely. :-( 12C Platinum and HP 33S gives us hope The ARM emulated Saturn could be one answer Not all that impossible BUT the predicted sales revenues should be high - right?! Now I guess thay are not high enough (not even if thousand of us would order such a calc) One thing that missing and is also NEEDED is HP 47G a basic numeric only graphing model to compete witl TI-83/84/86 style calculatrice 1) remove the new CAS (start from 48G+) 2) No symbolic Integration - numeric only 3) No symbolic solving - numeric only 4) No symbolic derivation 5) No symbolic DiffEq Solver, Numeric only (graphic?) - - - X) even 48G+ QUAD (etc) might have to be removed Y) 'Algebraic' manipulation not allowed? ("Wrong Argument Type") Z) Else ?
From: Howard Owen on 5 Oct 2006 08:39 Wayne Brown wrote: > > Well, the problem with that is that I wouldn't have wanted a 12CP, even > for free. I consider those to be an insult to the venerable Voyager line. Well, the 25th Anniversary Edition has returned to the old color scheme - almost. And the machine comes up in RPN by default. The keyboard is actually quite nice, too. It has a faster processor and more memory. The LCD isn't quite as nice as my 1981 12C. What is it that offends you about the machine? Regards, Howard
From: TW on 5 Oct 2006 08:42 > The LCD isn't quite as nice as my 1981 12C. What is it that offends you > about the machine? >From what I've been understanding, the fact that there is an HP in the top corner. :-) TW
From: Wayne Brown on 5 Oct 2006 12:09 Howard Owen <hbo(a)egbok.com> wrote: > > Wayne Brown wrote: >> >> Well, the problem with that is that I wouldn't have wanted a 12CP, even >> for free. I consider those to be an insult to the venerable Voyager line. > > Well, the 25th Anniversary Edition has returned to the old color scheme > - almost. And the machine comes up in RPN by default. The keyboard is > actually quite nice, too. It has a faster processor and more memory. > The LCD isn't quite as nice as my 1981 12C. What is it that offends you > about the machine? I hadn't looked at a 12CP since the first ones came out, so after reading your article I found a picture of the 25th Anniversary Edition. You're right, it looks much better than the orignal 12C Platinum -- quite a bit better than I expected. I still don't have a lot of interest in it, because I never cared much for the original 12C, though I give it its due respect as part of the original Voyager line. (I don't really like business-oriented calculators, and I never cared for the gold color of the 12C, so the 12CP 25th AE is an improvement in that respect.) I might actually even consider buying a new version of the 15C if it looked as good as that one, although I'd still prefer one that was identical to the original; one that even a 1980s HP engineer would have difficulty identifying as a newer copy. So while I don't especially want a 25th AE 12CP, at least I'm not offended by it like I was by the first version of the 12CP. -- Wayne Brown <fwbrown(a)bellsouth.net> (HPCC #1104) ??s ofereode, ?isses swa m?g. ("That passed away, this also can.") "Deor," from the Exeter Book (folios 100r-100v)
From: JB on 5 Oct 2006 13:26
> I consider those to be an insult to the venerable Voyager line. You mention the Voyager line. Please explain. Was that a line of HP calculators? If so, I wonder why TI would have a Voyage calculator? |