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From: Priam on 27 Nov 2009 14:22
On 11/27/2009 12:15 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:

> OS X is the last remaining large scale deployment of the Mach kernel.

What other large *scale deployments* of the Mach kernel have there been?

In a word, the Mach kernel is another feature, such as Motorola's 68000
and PowerPC processors, that, according to Jooby advertising gospel,
would change the world of computing and finally were only damp squibs.

Today, much of the microkernel architecture dream has been abandoned,
and so, much of the investment of Apple in NeXTStep has been lost, The
sale argument for M&M dummies is still going on strong, of course. :)

>> the rest of os x is not open source, although some parts are.
>>
>> <http://www.opensource.apple.com/>
>
> It is a complicated melange of FOSS and proprietary software.

Which, for FOSS, makes absolutely no sense. Some add-ons in Linux --
video drivers, Flash and Windows media codecs, etc. -- are proprietary,
but that's certainly not the will of Linux developers and companies,
whereas proprietary software is what Jooby trives on.

All of Apple's business is a lesson in idiocy that only M&Ms keep thriving.
From: Jolly Roger on 27 Nov 2009 14:31
In article <michelle-EECB74.10063927112009(a)nothing.attdns.com>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <timmcn-F21F86.10475927112009(a)news-1.mpls.iphouse.net>,
> Tim McNamara <timmcn(a)bitstream.net> wrote:
>
> > He's a harmless idiot if you take him in this light. Engage him if it
> > amuses you, ignore him otherwise. He's not worth getting one's undies
> > in a bunch, as the "don't feed the troll" crowd are wont to do. He
> > enjoys when we lecture each other about not responding to him, too.
>
> Well, by feeding his ego here, we're keeping him from running amok in a
> shopping center with an AK 47.

There's always that.

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From: Nick Naym on 27 Nov 2009 14:42
In article michelle-EECB74.10063927112009(a)nothing.attdns.com, Michelle
Steiner at michelle(a)michelle.org wrote on 11/27/09 12:06 PM:

> In article <timmcn-F21F86.10475927112009(a)news-1.mpls.iphouse.net>,
> Tim McNamara <timmcn(a)bitstream.net> wrote:
>
>> He's a harmless idiot if you take him in this light. Engage him if it
>> amuses you, ignore him otherwise. He's not worth getting one's undies
>> in a bunch, as the "don't feed the troll" crowd are wont to do. He
>> enjoys when we lecture each other about not responding to him, too.
>
> Well, by feeding his ego here, we're keeping him from running amok in a
> shopping center with an AK 47.

Are you sure? ;P

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From: Nick Naym on 27 Nov 2009 14:57
In article timmcn-F21F86.10475927112009(a)news-1.mpls.iphouse.net, Tim
McNamara at timmcn(a)bitstream.net wrote on 11/27/09 11:47 AM:

> In article <heoa3u0uk1(a)news4.newsguy.com>,
> J.J. O'Shea <try.not.to(a)but.see.sig> wrote:
>
>> One of the amazingly stupid things about Priam is how he keeps on and
>> on and on repeating tactics which have been shown to not work:
>> telling simple, easily refuted, lies, and using
>> elementary-school-level insults.
>
> He doesn't have tactics because tactics require an overarching strategy
> and a goal. He has no goal beyond insulting Mac users.


Wrong. He enjoys the control and attention. Getting _that_ is his goal. If
all he wanted to do was hurl insults, he'd do so -- and be duly ignored.
Instead, he throws out bait and waits for folks to bite. When the nibbling
frequency falls off, he hides behind new screen names, and throws out more
bait.



> He's not trying
> to promote open source or actually do anything, he's just amusing
> himself. Trollishness is basically a masturbatory activity.
>
> He's a harmless idiot if you take him in this light. Engage him if it
> amuses you, ignore him otherwise. He's not worth getting one's undies
> in a bunch, as the "don't feed the troll" crowd are wont to do. He
> enjoys when we lecture each other about not responding to him, too.

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From: Jolly Roger on 27 Nov 2009 15:10
In article <C7359746.4C5EA%nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com>,
Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote:

> Why bother? It takes absolutely no effort to simply ignore him when and if
> you see his posts...unless, of course, you're so easily tempted to respond
> to his comments.

Why bother filtering his posts? Well, for one, even if he changes nyms,
you know it's him at a glance. So you don't have to actually read his
posts to figure out it's him. I would say why *not* filter him out?

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