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From: Larc on 15 Jan 2010 11:33
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:33:57 -0800 (PST), shegeek72 <karmictaragem(a)2die4.com>
wrote:

| I've used Win7 and Vista side-by-side for a couple weeks and, so far,
| am happy. That's not to say I won't run into problems and I'll post
| them here if I do. But based on initial impressions I think XP users
| who've been holding out for Vista's 'successor' will be happy.

I never used Vista at home, but had to use it at work. My experience with it
there let me know that I didn't want it. But I jumped on the Win7 beta trial
when it was made available and installed it on my second computer. Didn't
really like the first beta much, but downloaded and installed the last one when
it was offered. A lot of bugs had been worked out, but it still seemed much
heavier on bells, whistles and eye candy than XP. Plus it was far less
customizable.

Did I miss something and all that changed with the released version?

Larc
From: Toolpackinmama on 15 Jan 2010 12:27
On 1/15/2010 11:33 AM, Larc wrote:

> I never used Vista at home, but had to use it at work. My experience with it
> there let me know that I didn't want it. But I jumped on the Win7 beta trial
> when it was made available and installed it on my second computer. Didn't
> really like the first beta much, but downloaded and installed the last one when
> it was offered. A lot of bugs had been worked out, but it still seemed much
> heavier on bells, whistles and eye candy than XP. Plus it was far less
> customizable.
>
> Did I miss something and all that changed with the released version?

Seven has a lot of bells and whistles. You can opt to turn them all
off. I have most of them turned off.

Both my older games (City of Heroes, World of Warcraft) and my newer
ones (Aion, Drangon Age) run smoother with Win 7 than they did with XP.

I am a big XP fan. I love XP. I am not here to tell people to give up
XP. I still use XP on my netbook.

I never liked Vista, and I really like Win 7 For My Games. Win 7 is
better for my games. The gaming is the only thing I do that actually
taxes my computer at all, so if something is wrong or right, that's
where I see and feel it.
From: DevilsPGD on 15 Jan 2010 18:38
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shegeek72 <karmictaragem(a)2die4.com> was claimed to have wrote:

>On Jan 14, 9:13�am, Larc <l...(a)notmyaddress.com> wrote:
>> Win7 largely continues taking away user options that Vista started. �Any
>> operating system that won't do what I want it to do and can't be set up as I
>> want is of no use to me even if it is "smooth and efficient." �I'm sticking with
>> XP!
>
>I have 3 systems: a laptop with Vista HP 64-bit, a desktop with Vista
>HP 32-bit/Win7 HP 32-bit (dual-boot) and another desktop with XP SP2,
>that I've used (through various hardware changes) for 10 years. I've
>been using Vista a little over 2 years. I waited to try Vista because
>I'd heard all the bad raps about it. Though the interesting thing was
>the ones who actually used Vista usually liked it and those who didn't
>were usually XP users who were jumping on the 'hate Vista' bandwagon.

The simple act of waiting saved you from experiencing the worst of the
pain.

Vista did fairly well assuming reasonably modern hardware, at least it
did once the worst of the driver compatibility issues were out of the
way.

Where Vista got a bad rap was from users loading it on a years-old PC
without proper driver support. Sure, some XP drivers worked, but it
created a bit of an unstable mess.

>I'm not discounting that there were problems with Vista, with hardware
>and software compatibility. But there were problems with XP, too, when
>it was first released.

XP was nearly as bad.

>I'd be interested to know what user options Vista and Win7 take away.

It's not so much "taken away" as just "different" -- The is the other
thing Vista did, things changed. Windows' interface hadn't
substantially changed since 2001, and hadn't undergone any more
fundamental changes since 1995.

Users who like the changes quietly used their computers, users who
didn't screamed and yelled about things being taken away.
From: Ian D on 15 Jan 2010 20:56

"shegeek72" <karmictaragem(a)2die4.com> wrote in message
news:3db200fd-d0cb-4e4f-8ed5-b04db83ce383(a)m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>I keep hearing this. However, I've read that Win7 is based on the MS
> Server 2008 code base and Vista on Server 2003. I've also read
> conflicting reports about the Win7 kernal. Some say it wasn't changed
> and others say it was changed in Win7. I have to admit Win7 looks and
> acts an awful like Vista.

Not possible. Vista SP2 was released in May 2009, Win 7 was
released in Oct 2009. Is it Vista SP3? Or, maybe it's XP SP4.
I tri-boot XP Pro, Vista Ultimate 64, and Win 7 Pro 64. For
some reason, Win 7 feels more like XP in day to day use than
it feels like Vista.


From: shegeek72 on 16 Jan 2010 05:00
On Jan 15, 5:56 pm, "Ian D" <tau...(a)nowhereatall.com> wrote:
> Not possible.  Vista SP2 was released in May 2009,  Win 7 was
> released in Oct 2009.   Is it Vista SP3?  Or, maybe it's XP SP4.
> I tri-boot XP Pro, Vista Ultimate 64, and Win 7 Pro 64.  For
> some reason, Win 7 feels more like XP in day to day use than
> it feels like Vista.

Yes, Win7 also has an XP feel to it. I think due, in part, to the
relatively spartan GUI and 'slimmed down' feel (Vista on a diet).
That's why I thought XP users who held out until now will be pleased
with 7.

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