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From: John Navas on 4 Nov 2009 21:07 On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:32:46 -0600, Data Point <datapoint(a)someisp.org> wrote in <uav3f5th4ak7mc6vhll8sq3aoskpsh99nk(a)4ax.com>: >On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:24:03 +0100, van dark <van.dark(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >>Hallo Data point, >>please, say me which camera is exactly perfectly right >>for your job. My job is similar one. >>Thanks. > >For that particular extended wilderness trek back then (there's been many >more months-long treks since, and newer cameras bought since then), I used >a Sony F717 with the VCL-HQD1758 tel-extender. The best in any cameras and >optics that I could find that year. They had no equals for durability, >dependability, image quality, and the widest range of capabilities with its >included macro, IR imaging, and higher EVF resolution than many present-day >cameras. As well as the unique and extremely handy swiveling body that >allows you to also use the EVF, not just the LCD, in awkward framing >situations. I wish they'd make cameras like that again. Few cameras even >today can beat the images from that model. Newer is not always better. >5-megapixels is more than anyone needs for 11"x14" prints (and larger, >subject dependent) if the optics and sensor are good. 3 megapixels was >already shown to compete with the finest-grain 35mm films many years ago. It actually takes more like 12 MP to best the best 35 mm film images. What was famously shown is that 3 MP digital can edge out film in 8x10 prints, but not at larger sizes. -- Best regards, John Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer, it makes you a dSLR owner. "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams
From: Chris H on 5 Nov 2009 03:06 In message <gc04f5dfubctsdch2bssbe96gfoc7bke71(a)4ax.com>, Data Point <datapoint(a)someisp.org> writes >On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:40:35 +0000, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote: > >>In message <2009110407011050073-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck >><savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes >>>On 2009-11-04 06:24:05 -0800, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> said: >>> >>>> In message <jdr2f5lm8n2hf9trp4ojpvh4g2sl5t8vc8(a)4ax.com>, Data Point >>>> <datapoint(a)someisp.org> writes >>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:56:43 +0000, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> <-------------------------------------Le Snip--------------------- >>>>>>---------------------------> >>> >>> >>> >>>> So you say >>>> >>>>> Contrary to your misguided, misinformed, and inexperienced >>>>> opinion. >>>> But Datapoint(a)someisp.org has no experience so any experience I >>>>have is >>>> greater. If you have the experience you claim you will have no problem >>>> identifying yourself. >>> >>>He is never going to truly identify himself since it is our P&S pal of >>>many names. >> >>I suspected as much. If he has done half as much as he claims he would >>be able to point us to a web site full of his work. > >Totally removed from the net about 4 years ago because useless trolls like >you were stealing them. Never stolen a photo in my life. Why would I want to? > One of the 8 or so websites had over 500 images >posted from only one of my yearly wilderness-treks. All gone, thanks to >useless DSLR trolls like you. Then you will have no trouble giving your real name. Otherwise you are just another wanna be troll -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
From: Bob Larter on 5 Nov 2009 08:03 Chris H wrote: > In message <2009110407011050073-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck > <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes >> On 2009-11-04 06:24:05 -0800, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> said: >> >>> In message <jdr2f5lm8n2hf9trp4ojpvh4g2sl5t8vc8(a)4ax.com>, Data Point >>> <datapoint(a)someisp.org> writes >>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:56:43 +0000, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> <-------------------------------------Le Snip--------------------- >>>>> ---------------------------> >> >> >>> So you say >>> >>>> Contrary to your misguided, misinformed, and inexperienced >>>> opinion. >>> But Datapoint(a)someisp.org has no experience so any experience I >>> have is >>> greater. If you have the experience you claim you will have no problem >>> identifying yourself. >> He is never going to truly identify himself since it is our P&S pal of >> many names. > > I suspected as much. If he has done half as much as he claims he would > be able to point us to a web site full of his work. Don't hold your breath waiting for the P&S troll to point out any of his work. -- W . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est ---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
From: Bob Larter on 5 Nov 2009 08:04 Data Point wrote: > On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:40:35 +0000, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote: > >> In message <2009110407011050073-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck >> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes >>> On 2009-11-04 06:24:05 -0800, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> said: >>> >>>> In message <jdr2f5lm8n2hf9trp4ojpvh4g2sl5t8vc8(a)4ax.com>, Data Point >>>> <datapoint(a)someisp.org> writes >>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:56:43 +0000, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> <-------------------------------------Le Snip--------------------- >>>>>> ---------------------------> >>> >>> >>>> So you say >>>> >>>>> Contrary to your misguided, misinformed, and inexperienced >>>>> opinion. >>>> But Datapoint(a)someisp.org has no experience so any experience I >>>> have is >>>> greater. If you have the experience you claim you will have no problem >>>> identifying yourself. >>> He is never going to truly identify himself since it is our P&S pal of >>> many names. >> I suspected as much. If he has done half as much as he claims he would >> be able to point us to a web site full of his work. > > Totally removed from the net Gee, what a surprise. -- W . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est ---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
From: Bob Larter on 5 Nov 2009 08:05
Data Point wrote: > On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:24:03 +0100, van dark <van.dark(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> Hallo Data point, >> please, say me which camera is exactly perfectly right >> for your job. My job is similar one. >> Thanks. > > For that particular extended wilderness trek back then (there's been many > more months-long treks since, and newer cameras bought since then), I used > a Sony F717 with the VCL-HQD1758 tel-extender. HAHAHahahahahahahahaha! -- W . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est ---^----^--------------------------------------------------------------- |