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From: Inertial on 10 Aug 2010 19:28
"glird" wrote in message
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>On Aug 7, 4:02 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote:
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>>wait, artful.... i'm looking for the place where i
>> finally deleted the word "dinsity".
?
? Found it in "The Anpheon"! It says:

You have no dignity .. if you did you would LEARN and UNDERSTAND basic
physics before daring to write books about it

From: mpc755 on 10 Aug 2010 21:04
On Aug 10, 7:07 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 10, 3:31 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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>
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> > On Aug 10, 5:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > On Aug 10, 2:52 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Aug 10, 5:42 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Aug 7, 4:02 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote:
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> > > > > >wait, artful.... i'm looking for the place where i
> > > > > > finally deleted the word "dinsity".
>
> > > > >   Found it in "The Anpheon"!  It says:
> > > > > ________
>
> > > > >   Mass:  "Mass" denotes "a quantity of matter".  Its unit of measure
> > > > > is a "densum", plural: densa. It is the quantity of matter in 1 cc of
> > > > > water at s.t.p. on Earth. (This unit is deliberately chosen as
> > > > > numerically equal to that of one gram of weight of that same quantity
> > > > > of water at rest on Earth.)  A densum is a constant quantity of matter
> > > > > regardless of how the material may be organized, no matter what its
> > > > > volume may be under different conditions and whether or not it has the
> > > > > "mass" (actually weight, in grams) denoted by the m in most of the
> > > > > present equations of Physics.  The quantity of matter, in densa, is
> > > > > the measure of the same; independently of its weight or state or shape
> > > > > or volume or location or anything else.
> > > > >   Density. "Density" is defined as "mass per unit volume". That used
> > > > > to mean the weight of a concentration of matter, in grams per unit
> > > > > volume. Since amorphous matter has no weight, the term "density"
> > > > > didn't seem to apply to matter per se. (As explained in subsequent
> > > > > chapters herein, it is weight, not matter, that disappears when some
> > > > > of the material formed into atoms flows out of its organized form and
> > > > > the weight of the remaining particles is less than the initial total
> > > > > weight had been.)
> > > > >   Once it is realized that a gram is a measure of the weight of a
> > > > > body, rather than of the quantity of matter in it, the following
> > > > > definition of "dinsity" as a replacement for "density" is obsolete.
> > > > >   Dinsity.  The zone within the adjacent figure contains a number of
> > > > > atoms (the dots). Each weighs say one unit. There are no atoms in box
> > > > > a so the weight in it is zero.
>
> > > > Box 'a' contains dark matter. Box 'a' has 'contains' mass.
>
> > > > > Box b contains four atoms. If this box
> > > > > is one cc large, the density would be four units per cc. However, a
> > > > > continuous compressible material fills box a and the spaces between
> > > > > atoms in box b, but has no weight thus had no mass or density.
>
> > > > Dark matter fills the spaces between the the atoms in box b. Dark
> > > > matter has mass. There is no space nor any part of three dimensional
> > > > space devoid of mass.
>
> > > > > We
> > > > > therefore defined a new word, "dinsity", to denote the degree of
> > > > > concentration of matter. Dinsity denoted the quantity of matter per
> > > > > unit volume, whether or not any of it is particulate or has weight in
> > > > > a gravitational field.  Though we won't use that word anymore, the
> > > > > concept remains valid even if some of the matter in a volume is
> > > > > particulate.
> > > > > ________
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> > > > >  Goodbye!
> > > > >  glird- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > - Show quoted text -
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> > > Einstein should not have been putting things in boxes for physics.
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> > > Mitch Raemsch
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> > Einstein created the foundation for the physics of nature.
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> > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity - Albert Einstein'http://www.tu-harburg.de/rzt/rzt/it/Ether.html
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> > "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
> > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, ...
> > disregarding the causes which condition its state."
>
> > The state of dark matter as determined by its connections with the
> > matter and the state of the dark matter in neighboring places is the
> > dark matter's state of displacement. The cause which conditions its
> > state is its displacement by matter.
>
> > "There can be no space nor any part of space without gravitational
> > potentials; for these confer upon space its metrical qualities,
> > without which it cannot be imagined at all."
>
> > There can be no space nor any part of space without mass; for mass
> > confers upon space its metrical qualities, without which it cannot be
> > imagined at all.
>
> > Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material.
> > Dark matter is displaced by matter.
> > Dark matter displaced by matter exerts pressure towards the matter.
> > Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity.
>
> > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?'
> > A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
>
> > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
> > diminishes by L/c2."
>
> > Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The
> > mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists
> > as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter.
> > As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional
> > space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring
> > dark matter and matter is energy.- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> Why would you put light in a box?
>
> Mitch Raemsch

This post has nothing to do with 'putting light in a box'.

Einstein created the foundation for the physics of nature.

'Ether and the Theory of Relativity - Albert Einstein'
http://www.tu-harburg.de/rzt/rzt/it/Ether.html

"the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, ...
disregarding the causes which condition its state."

The state of dark matter as determined by its connections with the
matter and the state of the dark matter in neighboring places is the
dark matter's state of displacement. The cause which conditions its
state is its displacement by matter.

"There can be no space nor any part of space without gravitational
potentials; for these confer upon space its metrical qualities,
without which it cannot be imagined at all."

There can be no space nor any part of space without mass; for mass
confers upon space its metrical qualities, without which it cannot be
imagined at all.

Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material.
Dark matter is displaced by matter.
Dark matter displaced by matter exerts pressure towards the matter.
Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity.

'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?'
A. EINSTEIN
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf

"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
diminishes by L/c2."

Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The
mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists
as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter.
As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional
space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring
dark matter and matter is energy.

Mass is conserved.
From: Rock Brentwood on 11 Aug 2010 04:05
On Aug 1, 12:44 pm, dlzc <dl...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> Dear glird:
> On Aug 1, 10:12 am, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >   Since a force is a net pressure,
> No, pressure is a force distributed over an area.

The word "net" means total -- as in sum or integral. Therefore, it is
wrong to say "no" until you first discern precisely what is meant by
"net". If it means, for instance, the total (as in integral) taken
over a 2-dimensional surface, then you're wrong and the other person
is right (and, in that case you're doubly wrong for reiterating what
you're refuting to argume against what you're "refuting"). If it does
not, then the other person is wrong -- and you're still wrong, because
your reply made no qualification or distinction and painted a broad
stroke over ALL meanings of "net" including the one that gives the
right answer.

The correct answer was: "Yes" (not "no"), "but, only if net means a
total, as in integral, taken over an area".

The units for pressure are actually the same as those (as few people
know) used for BMI (kilograms of body pass per square meter of
height). A BMI of 30 is around 6 pounds per square foot.
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