Is truth just something we have beliefs about or is there such a thing as truth?
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From: Michael Gordge on 21 May 2010 01:58 On May 21, 8:46 am, Immortalist <reanimater_2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Is truth just something we have beliefs about... What do ewe mean by truth as used in that question? > or is there such a thing as truth? What do ewe mean by truth as used in that question? MG
From: Mark Earnest on 21 May 2010 16:30 On May 20, 6:46 pm, Immortalist <reanimater_2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > If we suppose, that there are basic empirical beliefs, that is, > emperical beliefs which are epistemically justified, and whose > justification does not depend on that of any further emperical > beliefs, since for a belief to be episemically justified requires that > there be a reason why it is likely to be true and a belief is > justified for a person only if he is in cognitive possession of such a > reason, and a person is in cognitive possession of such a reason only > if he believes with justification the premises from which it follows > that the belief is likely to be true, but allthewhile the premises of > such a justifying argument must include at least one empirical > premise, whence the justification of a supposed basic empirical belief > depends on the justification of at least one other empirical belief, > contradicting that there are basic empirical beliefs, that is, > emperical beliefs which are epistemically justified, making it so > there can be no basic empirical beliefs including completely justified > sceptical beliefs, then is our only recourse to propose an empirical > belief which is realatively true if and only if it coheres with a > system of other beliefs, which together form a comprehensive account > of reality, which in science is similar to how "fact" can only mean > "confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold > provisional assent," and depends upon the evidential and conceptual > ("context") of reasoning or an inductive argument from evidence to > hypothesis which is inductively cogent if and only if the hypothesis > is that hypothesis which, of all the competing hypothesis, has the > greatest probability of being true on the basis of the evidence, > consequently leading one to believe that whether it is reasonable to > accept a hypothesis as true, if the statements of evidence are true, > is determined by whether that hypothesis is the most probable, on the > evidence, of all those with which it competes or should we just be > skeptical about the entire affair? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6IeASZZf1c No one has ever encountered the truth. When you finally find the truth, a sensor will go off and there will be no doubt. Then the truth will set you free.
From: Kevin on 22 May 2010 12:04
On May 20, 6:46 pm, Immortalist <reanimater_2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > If we suppose, that there are basic empirical beliefs. Is the belief that truth can be known an empirical belief? I can have reason for believing that truth can be known but what does that lead to? Whether truth can be known may be irrelevant since the implications of it lead to a fight that few, if anyone, has the stomack for. If it is possible to find common ground on what is truth, then we may agree that truth is always worth fighting for. |