From: Akhet on
>slider wrote in message ...
>
>Akhet smiteth...
>
>> I think you've got a serious anti-God/anti-Social problem slider.
>>
>> You need help.
>
>### - don't worry about it, professional help is being sought ;-)
>

(SNIP)

I'm glad.. Let's hope it does not involve a straightjacket of some
Thorazine yet.

Quote from 2012 movie; I'm currently watching.. Sage words for you in there:
-----
Rinpoche serving tea to a troubled son.

son: It is full, great Rinpoche.

Rinposhe replies:

Like this cup,
....you are full of opinions
and speculations.

To see the light of wisdom...
....you first must empty your cup.
..
..
Rinpoche throws a KEY to this son..
Saying:
Be careful with the clutch !
It tends to slip.
------------

The symbols are there slider.

I threw you one key..... It's up to you not to slip.
-----

What does it mean ?,,,,,,, You may wonder;
Synchronicity, man.... thang was just before trying to tell you,
that science does not exclude anything.
------------------------------------

Speaking of which; You were refreshed by Tom of that same
point in another discussion:

QUOTE:
From Tom:
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:19 AM
Re: Poof !
alt.dreams.castaneda,sci.physics,alt.alien.visitors,alt.fan.rawilson,alt.magick
��
-----
��On Apr 6, 9:39 am, "slider" <sli...(a)anashram.com> wrote:
��> Tom wrote...
��> > Intellect is the self-checking mechanism of directed consciousness.
��> > Without it, magick generates delusions, as can readily be seen by
��> > reading the posts of alt.magick. The most immediate indicator of
��> > delusion is the knee-jerk resentment of the claimant when evidence is
��> > requested by a skeptic. Intuition and emotional reaction are powerful
��> > and require no particular discipline, which is why so dabblers,
��> > poseurs, and impatient neophyte students of magick tend to rely on
��> > those capacities almost exclusively. They rebel against the
��> > discipline of logic because it's a buzz-kill for their fantasies.
��> > It's laziness, mainly.
��>
��> > ### - well this raises quite a few valid points tom, your cool detachment and
��> > apparent objectivity + clarity in raising questions that any 'reasonable' person
��> > should 'at-least' consider before committing to anything, is only belied by the
��> > fact that you yourself, without any warning whatsoever, are liable to suddenly
��> > descend to such similar clarity-destroying 'emotionalism' thus
��> > fostering/increasing the very thing(s) you currently now decry + highlight
��> > above?
��>
��> One can be both intellectually rigorous and emotionally active. They
��> are not mutually exclusive. The magician does not suppress emotion
��> nor ignore intellect. Consciousness is a complete package.
��>
��> > i.e. you can't have it both ways bud,
��>
��> Why not? I can see no reason at all to make emotion and intellect
��> mutually exclusive functions. Rather, they can and should be
��> complementary and simultaneous.
��>
��> ### - no one suggested making them mutually exclusive,
��
��Other than you, when you wrote "you can't have it both ways bud."
��
��> only that waiting for
��> someone to make what in your opinion is a mistake just so you can then stomp all
��> over them and feel quite justified in doing so, isn't exactly 'the' most
��> balanced nor possibly the most desirable configuration of said attributes one can
��> imagine, but more like the ravings of someone who is possibly just quite
��> emotionally disturbed themselves
��
��If you choose to fantasize about my motivations instead of asking me
��about them, you are no longer conversing. You're monologuing.
��
��> (last chance tom )
��
��Too late. You've already started monologuing. The only questions
��you'll be asking from here on will be rhetorical.
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Be careful with the clutch slider !
You've got one key.. 2012 is history.

===
P.S. Sorry pal; You wanted to crosspost; Lets finish the work properly.



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From: Meltdarok on
On 4/7/2010 8:46 PM, slider wrote:
> Meltdarok wrote...
>
>>> Tom wrote...
>>>
>>>>> opening track(s) from Roger Waters album 'Amused to Death'
>>>
>>> A has-been rocker's eighteen-year-old album lyrics. Pathetic.
>>>
>>> Not a bad album by itself, but it's just rehashed antiwar stuff that
>>> had been done to death in the 80's. Whining about war and the media.
>>> How... normal.
>>>
>>> ### - i 'know' that you're more intelligent than your above comments portray
>>> you
>>> to be tom, so all i really can suggest is that you forget being petty with me
>>> personally for a moment and listen to the whole thing in its entirety maybe a 2
>>> or
>>> 3 times (or how ever many times it takes) as the artist is painting a kind of
>>> musical picture/image as a comment on our 'conflict-torn' world, although i
>>> think
>>> you'll find that it also goes a little further than just war alone but also
>>> extends into that of the effects of conflict on us all + the effect that's had
>>> in
>>> shaping our collective human awareness, something which inescapably affects us
>>> all
>>> in one way or another... conflict = duality
>>>
>>> "the flames have all long gone but the pain lingers-on" --lyrics from 'the
>>> wall'
>>> before the band split up
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0v07InoFiU
>>>
>>> it might be old, but then nothing's really changed and so applies today as much
>>> as
>>> it ever did, if not more so...
>>>
>>> there is nothing 'new' under the sun& genuine Art doesn't have a shelf-life...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I saw Sun Ra the last two times he performed in Pittsburgh. He was
>> brought to Pittsburgh by WRCT radio of CMU to the Graffiti
>> night club, where I got to shake his hand during the last number
>> when the band danced weaving their way among the tables to the song
>> "We Travel the Spaceways". And his last appearance was a free concert
>> for the Homewood-Brushton Black Arts Festival. There they played an
>> e-x-t-e-n-d-e-d version of "Let's Go Fly a Kite," where the conga
>> player performed capoeira with a young man from Ra's entourage.
>> The white kids in the crowd were w-a-a-a-y into it as they heartily
>> sang along.
>> Two days later that drummer had a music/dance video on PBS'
>> "Alive From Off-Center" where he also performed capoeira. That
>> video was steeped in mystcism, and I still watch the tape to this day.
>>
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Ra
>>
>> RIP Sun Ra.
>> Amen.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk5jg5fo0kc
>
> ### - oh no it's Schoenberg!!! (i love Schoenberg hehe, classical jazz! ;-)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-fyWc6Mpd8
>
> now 'there' was a revolutionary!
>
> riots and 'duels' used to break-out at his concerts, literally! lol :)
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Schoenberg
>
> (thanks for sun ra btw :)
>

Sure. And that brings us "full circle" as I immediately began to think of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51oHwMiqslo&feature=related


--


Rev. Dr. Meltdarok
From: slider on

Akhet smiteth...

> I think you've got a serious anti-God/anti-Social problem slider.
>
> You need help.

### - don't worry about it, professional help is being sought ;-)



> Can you read and UNDERSTAND BEYOND WORDS ?....

### - never heard of 'anything' like that, but err ask Sartre as i believe after
sitting in some park 'he' experienced + advocated for all that walking-away from
being a wallyjob 'intellectual' all your life, kinda stuff :)



> Knock, knock;...Who's there ?

### - just another chicken crossing the road trying to avoid all the 18-wheelers
who one moment want to give you a lift and the next to run you over depending on
how lonely or not they feel today...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf-Mtd2A1DI

namaste




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From: RoadHog55 on

:
: ### -  just another chicken crossing the road trying to avoid all
the 18-wheelers
: who one moment want to give you a lift and the next to run you over
depending on
: how lonely or not they feel today...
:
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf-Mtd2A1DI

: namaste


Why did the ham-bone cross the road.
Cause the road crossed the ham-bone.

Death Defier = Mary The Ma-7-45-Line Mag Pie
Same old knee socks and ballet slippers; different dress.
Eights thrown Dr. Diamonds and his girly men out of paradise
many times because she looks like his siamese twin minus "one" bone.

It's a comedy as Dramatis Pathos Originatum

[] Arise - By Sepultura []

If all that exists is thought... Then?
Some-times sum-types of thoughts are labeled: The Enemy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtTUzaHly8o

[] Arise - By Sepultura []

Obscured by the sun
Apocalyptic clash
Cities fall in ruin
Why must we die?

Obliteration of mankind
Under a pale grey sky
We shall arise...

I did nothing, saw nothing
Terrorist confrontation
Waiting for the end
Wartime conspiracy

I see the world -- old
I see the world -- dead

Victims of war, seeking some salvation
Last wish, fatality
I've no land, I'm from nowhere
Ashes to ashes, dust to dust

Face the enemy
Manic thoughts
Religious intervention
Problems remain

--------------------------------------------

"A warrior has nothing to defend."
"A man with nothing has nothing to lose."

The Sacred Z-Living Silence Eternal...

Surfs Up........
From: "Bassos" Root on

>"RoadHog55" <intraphase(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:4ad0ca69-8529-4cb7-a737-876eb1ff4e42(a)v13g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
>
> "A warrior has nothing to defend."
> "A man with nothing has nothing to lose."

> The Sacred Z-Living Silence Eternal...

> Surfs Up........

Union is ever present.

Well, as far as defense goes :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtj4cDs2LKE
In my musical mind it is almost completely stolen.

From the same album :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KQmps-Sog

And that one is original and actually pretty sweet.

Lyrics cos it seems to be in season:

The paranoia is in bloom, the PR
the transmissions will resume
they'll try to
push drugs, keep us all dumbed down, and hope that
we will never see the truth around
(So come on!)

Another promise, another scene, another
a package not to keep us trapped in greed
with all the
green belts wrapped around our minds
and endless
red tape to keep the truth confined
(So come on!)

They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious

Interchanging mind control
come let the
revolution take its toll if, you could
flick the switch and open your third eye, you'd see that
we should never be afraid to die
(So come on!)

Rise up and take the power back, it's time that
the fat cats had a heart attack, you know that
their time is coming to an end
We have to unify and watch our flag ascend

They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious

Hey .. hey ... hey .. hey!

They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious