From: Rock Brentwood on 13 Jul 2010 22:35 On Jul 10, 5:54 am, Jarek Duda <duda...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I always thought that thermodynamics/statistical physics is effective > theory statistical result of some fundamental physics below, but > recently there became popular theories starting from entropic force > as fundamental (basing on holographic scenarios, like inhttp://arxiv.org/abs/1001.0785). Newspapers need to learn how to properly frame stories. This is not some "new and sensational discovery announced here today!", but just an extension of what's already a running thread in the literature and has been for nearly 20 years (and more). If I didn't see Jacobson's name in the reference list, I would have called it plagarism. Look up his article in the reference list. That's what it's all about and this paper is just a "I'm going to add my 2 cents so I can have an excuse to publish the same damn thing from 'another point of view'" type thing. The literature is replete with these. Jacobson didn't say that thermo is fundamental. He said -- to distill it in a way that best fits how you think of thermo -- that gravitation can be derived from the laws of thermo, when the following specific interpretations are taken: 0th law: the Hawking Unruh temperature is taken as T in the second law 1st law: the continuity equation for the stress tensor is taken as the first law 2nd law: dQ = T dS, where Q is the energy flux across a causal horizon 3rd law: the entropy is taken as proportional to the area over a "causal horizon", this gives you S Combined, this gives you Einstein's equations. In addition (a point Jacobson failed to make, but implied in his paper): the actual constant of proportionality is determined by the condition that everything be made to fit Newton's inverse r^2 formula with Newton's constant G as the proportionality factor. The way Jacobson went on to explain matters is that the "graviton" is no more fundamental than the phonon is in solid state physics. That means: (1) the "graviton" is for all intents and purpose a vacuum phonon and (2) there is a ultraviolet breakdown, entirely analogous to that for phonons in solid state physics.
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