From: Bobby Johnson on
The reason it's taking so long to come out with a 64-bit
Flash player is because this whole situation is kind of a
Catch-22. People won't sink money into a 64-bit platform
until there is 64-bit software for them to use, but the
software companies won't get serious about producing 64-bit
software until enough people have the hardware to use the
software since they need a return on their investment to
make it worth their time.

As Sherlock Holmes would say: "It's elementary, Dr. Watson."



Bogey Man wrote:
>
> I sure hope that Adobe gets its act together and get a 64bit version of
> Flash out. They are sure taking their sweet bloody time with it. It
> makes me wonder how they are with their other products that have to be
> paid for.
From: Mark H on
Simple...

Convince Microsoft not to include IE7 x86 version on the x64 DVD. Then,
everyone with x64 installed will scream at Adobe.
As long as x86 is the default, why would Adobe convert?
It ain't broke; don't fix it.

"Bobby Johnson" <rjohnson(a)aol.NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
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> The reason it's taking so long to come out with a 64-bit
> Flash player is because this whole situation is kind of a
> Catch-22. People won't sink money into a 64-bit platform
> until there is 64-bit software for them to use, but the
> software companies won't get serious about producing 64-bit
> software until enough people have the hardware to use the
> software since they need a return on their investment to
> make it worth their time.
>
> As Sherlock Holmes would say: "It's elementary, Dr. Watson."
>
>
>
> Bogey Man wrote:
> >
> > I sure hope that Adobe gets its act together and get a 64bit version of
> > Flash out. They are sure taking their sweet bloody time with it. It
> > makes me wonder how they are with their other products that have to be
> > paid for.


From: miso on
On Feb 4, 8:49 am, "Mark H" <jmhonz...(a)nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
> Simple...
>
> Convince Microsoft not to include IE7 x86 version on the x64 DVD. Then,
> everyone with x64 installed will scream at Adobe.
> As long as x86 is the default, why would Adobe convert?
> It ain't broke; don't fix it.
>
> "Bobby Johnson" <rjohn...(a)aol.NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>
> news:%237A8YDuhJHA.1172(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> > The reason it's taking so long to come out with a 64-bit
> > Flash player is because this whole situation is kind of a
> > Catch-22.  People won't sink money into a 64-bit platform
> > until there is 64-bit software for them to use, but the
> > software companies won't get serious about producing 64-bit
> > software until enough people have the hardware to use the
> > software since they need a return on their investment to
> > make it worth their time.
>
> > As Sherlock Holmes would say: "It's elementary, Dr. Watson."
>
> > Bogey Man wrote:
>
> > > I sure hope that Adobe gets its act together and get a 64bit version of
> > > Flash out. They are sure taking their sweet bloody time with it. It
> > > makes me wonder how they are with their other products that have to be
> > > paid for.

The alternative is to get the webmasters to stop using flash. Most of
the time, the use of flash is not needed. I block flash in firefox
because too many adverts are in flash, and you can't read a webpage
with all that stuff wiggling around.

I got one webmaster to remove flash from his buttons. I mean
seriously, what could be simple text COULD be replaced with a little
graphics (i.e. click on an image), but flash on the buttons?

There there is the issue of mobile surfers. Most cellphones can't do
flash. The ones that do are using level 2. Some people think that the
youtube videos you watch on a phone are flash, but they are some other
format (3GP or something like that).

Basically, if they didn't use flash, the problem would go away.
From: Steve Foster [SBS MVP] on
Bogey Man wrote:

><miso(a)sushi.com> wrote in message
>news:85b49398-0390-4bd8-9142-9fcb9bb4e264(a)r15g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>>On Feb 2, 3:34 pm, Carlos <Car...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>Praised be the Lord!
>>>:)
>>>We have a final release of Java compatible with IE
>>>64-bithttps://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_Developer-S...
>>>A mere 16 megs download.
>>>Fire up your IE64 and test it
>>>here:http://www.upshot.com/login/javatest/logo/javavmtest.html
>>>If you can see the spinning triangle, welcome to the world of 64-bit IE.
>>>Carlos
>>
>>Can you speak to the folks at Adobe about Flash? ;-)
>
>I sure hope that Adobe gets its act together and get a 64bit version of
>Flash out. They are sure taking their sweet bloody time with it. It makes
>me wonder how they are with their other products that have to be paid for.

Where I have to use IE, I prefer to use 64-bit IE (over 32-bit IE)
precisely because neither Java nor Flash worked...

I've yet to see a website where the use of Flash actually helped.

--
Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
---------------------------------------
MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.
From: Bobby Johnson on
I have to agree with Steve 100%. The only thing these
plugins and addons do is bog down the whole internet. Lets
go back to the days when there were none of this garbage.
And don't forget popups and all this trash advertising,
cookies to track your use, and a multitude of other
bandwidth hogs no one requested - at least I didn't!


Steve Foster [SBS MVP] wrote:
> Bogey Man wrote:
>
>> <miso(a)sushi.com> wrote in message
>> news:85b49398-0390-4bd8-9142-9fcb9bb4e264(a)r15g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Feb 2, 3:34 pm, Carlos <Car...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>> Praised be the Lord!
>>>> :)
>>>> We have a final release of Java compatible with IE
>>>> 64-bithttps://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_Developer-S...
>>>>
>>>> A mere 16 megs download.
>>>> Fire up your IE64 and test it
>>>> here:http://www.upshot.com/login/javatest/logo/javavmtest.html
>>>> If you can see the spinning triangle, welcome to the world of 64-bit
>>>> IE.
>>>> Carlos
>>>
>>> Can you speak to the folks at Adobe about Flash? ;-)
>>
>> I sure hope that Adobe gets its act together and get a 64bit version
>> of Flash out. They are sure taking their sweet bloody time with it. It
>> makes me wonder how they are with their other products that have to be
>> paid for.
>
> Where I have to use IE, I prefer to use 64-bit IE (over 32-bit IE)
> precisely because neither Java nor Flash worked...
>
> I've yet to see a website where the use of Flash actually helped.
>