From: Ken Smith on
In article <mUb9h.24805$yl4.22099(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>,
<lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
[....]
>> Depends on the effectiveness of the infrastructure.
>
>Name one that is.

Bolder Dam AKA Hoover Dam.


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From: T Wake on

"Ken Smith" <kensmith(a)green.rahul.net> wrote in message
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> In article <HZidnczurMtWkvrYnZ2dnUVZ8tmdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>,
> T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> [....]
>>Bit like saying that because the Irish Republicans spent thirty years
>>bombing the UK, any political party with "Republican" in its name supports
>>terrorism, violence and non-political methods of forcing people to obey
>>it.
>>
>>Well, is that the case?
>
> A fairly good argument could be made if you assume:
>
> "shock and aw" == terrorism
> war == violence
> war == "nonpolitical methods"
>
> You should have picked a better example.

I don't know, I still like my example :-)


From: T Wake on

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> T Wake wrote:
>
>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> I'm told
>> >>> >> that a successful socialist economy is in Sweden. I have to study
>> >>> >> that.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >It's called social democracy.
>> >>>
>> >>> I know. The fact that the word democracy has to be included gives
>> >>> me a slight warning.
>> >>
>> >>And your fear of democracy doesn't surprise me.
>> >
>> > <ahem> The word democracy is included in a political party's name
>> > for the same reason the word "science" is put into Computer Science
>> > degree's name.
>>
>> This is your real bias. Social democracy is not a political party in this
>> context (yes some countries have a "Social Democratic Party" but that was
>> never an issue here).
>>
>> You bias is ensuring you are incapable of making a reasoned judgement
>> about
>> policies or foreign governments.
>>
>> Bit like saying that because the Irish Republicans spent thirty years
>> bombing the UK, any political party with "Republican" in its name
>> supports
>> terrorism, violence and non-political methods of forcing people to obey
>> it.
>>
>> Well, is that the case?
>
> It seems to work for the US Republicans !

:-)


From: krw on
In article <ek79lm$r6e$2(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu
says...
> In article <3fcbb$45647f3d$4fe77c5$17560(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
> >Lloyd Parker wrote:
> >
> >> In article <ek1equ$8ss_003(a)s853.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
> >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>>Water after a natural disaster. Monopolies. There are many examples
> where
> >>>>unbridled capitalism is just plain wrong.
> >
> >>>Have you considered that people should plan ahead?
> >
> >> Have you considered compassion? Caring (about more than money, that is)?
> >
> >Where necessary and it isn't part of a permanent scheme, sure.
> >
> >> AT&T once had a monopoly on phone service. Tell me how someone could damn
> >> "plan ahead"!
> >
> >AT&T's former monopoly was licensed and regulated. They
> >eventally voluntarily gave it up in order to be permitted
> >to invest their profits in something unrelated to
> >their primary business.
> >
>
> Just in case you haven't been paying attention, it was a gov't lawsuit that
> broke them up.
>
> >And just in case you haven't been paying attention, the
> >phoenix is arising out of its ashes.
> >
>
> Yep, under the Bush administration, which lets business do whatever it wants.

Oh, is that why the Enron, Tyco, and Adelphia executives are going
to prison.

Do grow up!

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Keith
From: T Wake on

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> T Wake wrote:
>
>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> > "JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
>> >>
>> >> Being a Usenet PlonkTARD is likely worse. Announcing your filter
>> >> file edits plants you squarely at the bottom of the barrel.
>> >
>> > Oh, you mean like Unsettled does?
>>
>> And lots of the others here (/BAH, Terrell etc).
>
> It's intruiging how us 'socialists' don't have this yearning to cut
> ourselves
> off from opinions we may not agree with.

Sadly true.

> On the subject of which, during a chat with a very intelligent mate of
> mine
> yesterday he reckoned I should cut my hair and join the Conservative Party
> ! He
> reckoned I'd go far.

How times have changed :-) The Labour party is privatising things all over
the place, beating down the unions and increasing spending on defence
(including the one time arch enemy of labour - the Nuclear Deterrent!),
while the Tories are going about saying how much they value civil liberties,
want to fight climate change etc.

Really strange turn of events! :-D