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From: Steve Pope on 20 Jul 2010 14:20 Three of the low-end XP machines I manage have been running identical configurations of Kaspersky AV 7 and Spybot S&D, with all realtime protections turned on, without major issues. It has come time to renew the three-machine Kaspersky license, so when I applied the new activation code to the first machine I encountered the following: The new code would not activate Kaspersky 7, so I had to install Kaspersky Antivirus 2010. The install itself went okay, however when running a scan (with Spybot's resident protection turned off, just for good measure) Kaspersky brought the machine to its knees, with CPU usage pegged at 100% causing a major freeze requiring serious measures including a Windows Restore, and deinstall/reinstall of Kaspersky. Since then, I set the Kaspersky "cede machine resources" bit, and it has behaved a little better, but it is too soon to say it is a stable machine. Also, the user interface does not seem nearly as good as Kaspersky 7. I have not found a way to open a "details" window when scanning. One must scan, wait for it to complete, then open a report to see if it found anything. The report lists found items, but it does not say what the corrective action was (one assumes it followed the rules under your settings, but for example the report does not say whether it disinfected, or whether it deleted the detected item. It would be nice to know.) All of this seems quite a bit inferior to the previous product, although perhaps there is a way to get the user interface to cough up the information I am used to. My questions are: (1) Can you get a "details" window as in Kaspersky 7, that tells you of detection and corrective action as it goes along? (2) I'm told that Spybot S&D and Kaspersky together will in particular drag down a machine. I'm told replacing Spybot S&D with Malwarebytes will help significantly. Is this viable? The other two machines I need to configure are less powerful then the one I just worked on, so I'm pretty sure they will die entirely if I proceed in the same manner as I did with the first machine. I like Kaspersky because it actually finds/blocks things, unlike some other products I've tried like Microsoft Security Essentials, but I'll have to say I would not have paid for the three-machine renewal had I known I'd be forced to upgrade the product. (Guess I should have read the fine print.) Any advice? Thanks. Steve
From: Roy on 21 Jul 2010 16:39 On Jul 21, 2:20 am, spop...(a)speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote: > Three of the low-end XP machines I manage have been running identical > configurations of Kaspersky AV 7 and Spybot S&D, with all realtime > protections turned on, without major issues. It has come time to > renew the three-machine Kaspersky license, so when I applied the > new activation code to the first machine I encountered the > following: > > The new code would not activate Kaspersky 7, so I had to install > Kaspersky Antivirus 2010. The install itself went okay, however > when running a scan (with Spybot's resident protection turned off, > just for good measure) Kaspersky brought the machine to its knees, > with CPU usage pegged at 100% causing a major freeze requiring > serious measures including a Windows Restore, and deinstall/reinstall > of Kaspersky. > > Since then, I set the Kaspersky "cede machine resources" bit, and it > has behaved a little better, but it is too soon to say it is a > stable machine. > > Also, the user interface does not seem nearly as good as Kaspersky 7. > I have not found a way to open a "details" window when scanning. > One must scan, wait for it to complete, then open a report > to see if it found anything. The report lists found items, > but it does not say what the corrective action was (one assumes > it followed the rules under your settings, but for example the > report does not say whether it disinfected, or whether it deleted the > detected item. It would be nice to know.) > > All of this seems quite a bit inferior to the previous product, > although perhaps there is a way to get the user interface to cough > up the information I am used to. > > My questions are: > > (1) Can you get a "details" window as in Kaspersky 7, that > tells you of detection and corrective action as it goes along? > > (2) I'm told that Spybot S&D and Kaspersky together will in > particular drag down a machine. I'm told replacing Spybot S&D > with Malwarebytes will help significantly. Is this viable? > The other two machines I need to configure are less powerful > then the one I just worked on, so I'm pretty sure they will > die entirely if I proceed in the same manner as I did with > the first machine. > > I like Kaspersky because it actually finds/blocks things, unlike > some other products I've tried like Microsoft Security Essentials, > but I'll have to say I would not have paid for the three-machine > renewal had I known I'd be forced to upgrade the product. (Guess > I should have read the fine print.) > > Any advice? Thanks. > > Steve As far as Kaspersky 2010 products are concerned whether its the AV or the KIS they have the peculiarity that if your PC had a RAM of just 256mb, the scanning will take 100% of the CPU resources, the same thing I experienced with the latest AVGs that the PC seems to hang for quite a time. I tried increasing the RAM to 512mb and the scanning time takes about half of the CPU resources and seems to improve the situation meaning it has something to do with the RAM capacity. I had complained this peculiarity to the kaspersky forum and all the experts there suggested to the same direction that the latest version of kaspersky is best if the memory is higher than 256mb....... and in fact with a PC that has a RAM of 1 Gb the performance was a lot better.... Roy
From: Steve Pope on 21 Jul 2010 16:50 Roy <roybasan(a)gmail.com> wrote: >As far as Kaspersky 2010 products are concerned whether its the AV or >the KIS they have the peculiarity that if your PC had a RAM of just >256mb, the scanning will take 100% of the CPU resources, the same >thing I experienced with the latest AVGs that the PC seems to hang for >quite a time. >I tried increasing the RAM to 512mb and the scanning time takes about >half of the CPU resources and seems to improve the situation meaning >it has something to do with the RAM capacity. >I had complained this peculiarity to the kaspersky forum and all the >experts there suggested to the same direction that the latest version >of kaspersky is best if the memory is higher than 256mb....... >and in fact with a PC that has a RAM of 1 Gb the performance was a lot >better.... Thanks. The machine I installed it on have 2 gigs of RAM; the other two I hope to install it on each have one gig. Steve
From: Steve Pope on 22 Jul 2010 14:54 One more question on the Kaspersky AV 2010 features. The "rootkit scan" feater in Kaspersky 7 has gone away. There is now an "objects scan". Is the rootkit scanner gone (perhaps, moved to a different product than the basic AV product)? What does "object scan" do? Does a "full scan" also do an object scan (whatever that is)? Thanks Steve
From: tom on 22 Jul 2010 19:08
"Steve Pope" <spope33(a)speedymail.org> wrote in message news:i2a44l$oqm$1(a)blue.rahul.net... > One more question on the Kaspersky AV 2010 features. > > The "rootkit scan" feater in Kaspersky 7 has gone away. There > is now an "objects scan". > > Is the rootkit scanner gone (perhaps, moved to a different > product than the basic AV product)? > > What does "object scan" do? Does a "full scan" also do an object > scan (whatever that is)? > > Thanks > > Steve My version of KAV 2010 runs a root kit scan once a day. I can't find any setting(s) for this anywhere in the program. No scheduling or setup anywhere. Not really a problem, but a bit strange. http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z95/dollymadis/Graphic_7_22_20106_03_09PM.jpg |