From: Wolodja Wentland on
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 08:58 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 06:39:29 -0400 (EDT), Anthony Campbell wrote:
> >
> > After some more experimenting, I've found that it also happens even
> > without X! So I don't think the problem is with xorg. I'm now using an
> > installed version of stable and that has no crashes, so it seems to be
> > something about how the latest kernel interacts with my system. There
> > are no other linux-images around to try so perhaps I shall have to
> > compile a kernel myself.
>
> I'm no expert, but this sounds like a KMS issue to me. You might try
> http://snapshot.debian.org to recover an older stock kernel package,
> such as linux-image-2.6.32-3-686.

... or just disable KMS (and yes it sounds like a KMS issue). You can
find details on [1].

Good luck

Wolodja

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting#Disabling
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From: Anthony Campbell on
On 14 Jul 2010, Wolodja Wentland wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 08:58 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
> > On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 06:39:29 -0400 (EDT), Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > >
> > > After some more experimenting, I've found that it also happens even
> > > without X! So I don't think the problem is with xorg. I'm now using an
> > > installed version of stable and that has no crashes, so it seems to be
> > > something about how the latest kernel interacts with my system. There
> > > are no other linux-images around to try so perhaps I shall have to
> > > compile a kernel myself.
> >
> > I'm no expert, but this sounds like a KMS issue to me. You might try
> > http://snapshot.debian.org to recover an older stock kernel package,
> > such as linux-image-2.6.32-3-686.
>
> ... or just disable KMS (and yes it sounds like a KMS issue). You can
> find details on [1].
>
> Good luck
>
> Wolodja
>
> [1] http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting#Disabling
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Thanks to Stephen and Wolodja for the suggestions, which I will follow
up. The snapshots site is what I was looking for and I'll check on KMS
as well. Meanwhile, I compiled a kernel myself and that runs without
problems.

Anthony




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From: Kelly Clowers on
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 06:43, Wolodja Wentland
<wentland(a)cl.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:
>
> ... or just disable KMS (and yes it sounds like a KMS issue). You can
> find details on [1].

Seems that his KMS and DRI are already disabled.

>drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
>[drm] failed to load kernel module "radeon"
>(EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM
>[dri] Disabling DRI.

>(II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported.


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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From: Anthony Campbell on
On 14 Jul 2010, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 06:43, Wolodja Wentland
> <wentland(a)cl.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:
> >
> > ... or just disable KMS (and yes it sounds like a KMS issue). You can
> > find details on [1].
>
> Seems that his KMS and DRI are already disabled.
>
> >drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
> >[drm] failed to load kernel module "radeon"
> >(EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM
> >[dri] Disabling DRI.
>
> >(II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Kelly Clowers
>
>

Yes. In any case, as the effect occasionally happens even before X is
started, it can't be anything to do with the xorg driver. On the other
hand, it doesn't happen with any kernel prior to 2.6.32-5-686, which
also causes the small font effect, so it must be something about that
kernel on my machine.

Anthony

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