From: Lew on
Lew wrote:
>> Then I used a version of the Maltron keyboard
>> <http://www.maltron.com/maltron-kbd-etype-intro.html> for a couple of
>> years at home. I loved it - I absolutely loved it - but it was
>> fragile as heck.

shane(a)doesnt.need.more.spam wrote:
> Ugh... I was thinking of this as a next purchase.

Well, the version I bought was not from Maltron, but from
<http://www.ergo-comp.com/>

Perhaps the Maltron, at nearly $900 U.S., is more durable but I'll never find
out at that price.

The key dropoffs were less a problem than you might suppose, since they snap
right back on.

The fragile wire was an issue, but maybe the "model changeover" mentioned on
their home page will fix that. Or maybe they're going out of business. Or
maybe they're switching away from Maltron. Or maybe they're doing something
completely unpredictable.

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Lew
From: Lew on
Wojtek wrote:
>> Well there is the Optimus Maximus keyboard:
>> http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/ but it is just out of my
>> price range :-)
>>
>> It would be cool though. Switch to Debug mode in your IDE and have the
>> key-caps change to debug commands...

Break Point wrote:
> I'll have an interesting sleep tonight...
>
> Nightmares of the click of each key on the 20 year old one.
>
> Beautiful dreams of the ridiculously expensive Optimus Maximus.

Ridiculously expensive, non-ergonomic, and unabashedly stupid. What need does
a touch typist have for a screen on every key?

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From: Break Point on
On 24/04/2010 00:15, Lew wrote:
> Wojtek wrote:
>>> Well there is the Optimus Maximus keyboard:
>>> http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/ but it is just out of my
>>> price range :-)
>>>
>>> It would be cool though. Switch to Debug mode in your IDE and have the
>>> key-caps change to debug commands...
>
> Break Point wrote:
>> I'll have an interesting sleep tonight...
>>
>> Nightmares of the click of each key on the 20 year old one.
>>
>> Beautiful dreams of the ridiculously expensive Optimus Maximus.
>
> Ridiculously expensive, non-ergonomic, and unabashedly stupid. What need
> does a touch typist have for a screen on every key?
>

Not much need really, it's unashamedly bling.

Never been much of a fan of ergonomic keyboards, used to have a
Microsoft ergonomic curvy thing back in the day, never quite got used to
it and it took over half my desk.

I also think that plastic flappy wrist thingies attached to the bottom
of regular keyboards should be cast into room 101 :p
(http://techgage.com/reviews/logitech/illuminated_keyboard/logitech_eluminated_keyboard_01_thumb.jpg)

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From: Arved Sandstrom on
Lew wrote:
> Stefan Ram wrote:
>> Unless waterproof, this would cost me $359 per month, but
>> should make an impression:
>>
>> http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/images/kb_adv-pro_met720x471.jpg
>
> I used this keyboard on a job for over four years. It fixed my
> repetitive-motion pain, but I hated the tiny function keys.
>
> Then I used a version of the Maltron keyboard
> <http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/images/kb_adv-pro_met720x471.jpg>
> for a couple of years at home. I loved it - I absolutely loved it - but
> it was fragile as heck. The cable to the PC kinked, the keys fell off,
> and my wife and friends found it frightening. But it's not as wide as
> most keyboards, thus it fit beautifully on my narrow keyboard shelf, and
> the ergonomics of it are everything they claim.
>
> But the fragility made it infeasible to replace.
>
> So now I use a Microsoft Wireless Comfort Keyboard 1.0A. I've worn the
> letters off several of the keys, it's grimy from a few years of use, but
> the key layout is comfortable (it has the long "Delete" key below "Home"
> with the "Home"/"End"/"PageUp"/"PageDown" suite in a vertical
> arrangement, and the arrows in a low inverted-T) and just won't quit.
>
> My hands pronate some, but it's not causing injury like some cheap
> keyboards would.
>
> If Maltron made a durable, wireless USB version it'd be ideal.
>
> The Microsoft is so much less expensive, though. I use the Microsoft
> wireless mouse that came with it, and I find it perfect. In the end,
> Microsoft wins.
>
This whole discussion comes at a good time, since I want to buy two
keyboards and one wireless mouse. One complete set is for the new
Windows 7 Dell that I acquired in December, and it's basically because
my better half saw my Mac wireless keyboard and my Magic Mouse and she
insists on going wireless. :-) The other keyboard is for my tried and
true old Dell with Windows XP Pro - the keyboard is simply due to be
retired (rather annoyingly the Shift is having major issues).

I've never much liked the stock Dell keyboards, but they haven't been so
bad that I'd go out and buy a new one while the other still worked. But
now I need to bite the bullet. I like the recommendation above for the
Wireless Comfort KB and I think I'll get one so my gf can test-drive
it...then I'll borrow it for a bit. I don't need but a few hours to
figure out whether I like a KB or not.

What's somewhat ironic is that the Mac wireless keyboard I have is more
ergonomic by far - short-travel Chiclet keys and all - than any other
keyboard I use right now, home or work. Mainly because the profile is so
low. For the same reason the keyboard on my MacBook Pro is very
comfortable: short-travel keys and a natural area for both palms to rest
on. These observations are of course applicable to me only. But any PC
keyboard that offered similar features - non-flimsy feel, short-travel
keys, and suitable palm rests - would do the trick for me.

I won't be surprised if I end up with two MS Wireless Comfort keyboards
then. Since a wireless mouse is also involved I imagine I'll look at the
Optical Desktop Pro combo, or the Wireless Laser 6000 combo (I think
Peter mentioned something like this latter).

On the subject of mice, I could actually not care less about the
wireless aspect, although there are some minor conveniences involved
with that. What does have me badly spoiled is the Magic Mouse...I'll
never be happy with track balls or scroll wheels again. :-)

AHS
From: jebblue on
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:13:44 +0100, Break Point wrote:

> Beautiful dreams of the ridiculously expensive Optimus Maximus.
>

It only supports Windows and Mac, that makes it useless.

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