From: Roedy Green on
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 23:43:48 +0100, Tom Anderson
<twic(a)urchin.earth.li> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who
said :

>In my office, we have several rubbish keyboards. We are going to replace
>them with less rubbish keyboards. Does anyone have any recommendations for
>keyboards they really, really like, and if so, would they care to tell
>them to me?

see http://mindprod.com/bgloss/keyboard.html

I have written extensively on the subject.
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From: Roedy Green on
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 11:28:34 -0500, shane(a)doesnt.need.more.spam wrote,
quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :

>Ditto, It's a great keyboard, but Kinesis really messed up with the
>'impossible not to fat-finger' function keys. All they'd have to do is
>relocate the 'keypad' and 'program' keys, then they'd have enough room
>for real function keys...

I wrote them recently about the keys. They have not changed them.

Apparently the older keyboards, such as mine, are on a lifetime
warranty.
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It�s amazing how much structure natural languages have when you consider who speaks them and how they evolved.
From: Roedy Green on
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 23:43:48 +0100, Tom Anderson
<twic(a)urchin.earth.li> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who
said :

>In my office, we have several rubbish keyboards. We are going to replace
>them with less rubbish keyboards. Does anyone have any recommendations for
>keyboards they really, really like, and if so, would they care to tell
>them to me?

Consider gettinga keyboard WITHOUT a numeric keypad. You probably
never use it. Without it, your mouse is closer to where your right
hand rests.
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Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products
http://mindprod.com

It�s amazing how much structure natural languages have when you consider who speaks them and how they evolved.
From: Lew on
Roedy Green wrote:
> Consider gettinga keyboard WITHOUT a numeric keypad. You probably
> never use it. Without it, your mouse is closer to where your right
> hand rests.

Now there's an assumption.

One of the standard tricks to prevent repetitive-motion disorder, especially
for right-handed people, is to move the mouse to the left side. Removing the
numeric keypad from the right of the keyboard will have no effect on where the
right hand rests whatsoever if people do that smart thing.

--
Lew
From: Lew on
Roedy Green wrote:
>> Consider gettinga keyboard WITHOUT a numeric keypad. You probably
>> never use it. Without it, your mouse is closer to where your right
>> hand rests.

Lew wrote:
> Now there's an assumption.
>
> One of the standard tricks to prevent repetitive-motion disorder,
> especially for right-handed people, is to move the mouse to the left
> side. Removing the numeric keypad from the right of the keyboard will
> have no effect on where the right hand rests whatsoever if people do
> that smart thing.

And while we're on the subject, on what statistical or evidentiary basis do
you conclude that someone "probably" doesn't use the numeric keypad?

I'm betting none whatsoever.

Many people, of whom I am one, use the numeric keypad quite extensively. It
is so much easier, and so less prone to induce pain, to use that then the row
of number keys above the alphabetic ones.

I do agree that if one is not one of those people then a keyboard without such
a keypad might be useful. That brings up the question of what, if any,
keyboards are available without that keypad. And what else they sacrificed,
e.g., other ergonomic factors, when they dropped it.

I recommend that one consider learning to use the numeric keypad than to
abandon it.

--
Lew
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