Kip Thorne. Objects do not fall faster than light in a black hole
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From: John Christiansen on 8 Aug 2010 07:38 "Hikaru Yamoshi" <yosh383(a)dcemail.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:3ee07c82-e02f-4efc-8313-27aca4dcb193(a)w30g2000yqw.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 4, 4:44 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Aug 3, 10:13 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> > Kip Thorne's excuse would mean there is no more gravity for energy >> > once inside the event horizon. Otherwise the gravity inside would >> > propel energy faster than light in the black hole. >> >> > The only way to make black holes work by Kip Thorne's excuse to get >> > rid of gravity and its action on energy when inside the black hole >> > itself. >> >> > Mitch Raemsch >> >> Instead of making up what you think you remember Kip Thorne might have >> said when you skimmed his book in the library some years ago, why >> don't you go back to the library, read it again, and post when you >> have it fresh in your mind? > > rather you refuse to admit BURT has > a valid point once again If BURT has a valid point (which I actually don't see) then it would be the first time ever in this newsgroup, so it can't be 'again'. > > if speed of matter gets infinite when > close to a black hole, then it should > get out on the other side of singularity, > if any > > singularities dos NOT annihilate inertia !!! > > annihilate inertia then you have no > singularity whatsoever !!! > > good bye
From: Raymond Yohros on 8 Aug 2010 14:56 On Aug 4, 3:33 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Einstein never agreed with them when > he saw what happened at the extreme of his theory. Einstein never > believed in a completely collapsed star. > in that very particular case einstein was wrong as many scientist presented empirical data of complete collapse from labs. r.y
From: David R Tribble on 8 Aug 2010 15:09 BURT wrote: > If there is even greater gravity inside the theory says you reach > light speed at the event horizon then gravity would propel energy > faster than light. Even reaching light speed is a violation of SR > motion laws. So black holes are disproved by violating the motion law > of Einstein. Interesting. Can you provide the physics equations that show the inequality?
From: Androcles on 8 Aug 2010 15:54 "David R Tribble" <david(a)tribble.com> wrote in message news:cdb0d1b0-3c2e-40c2-980a-9d6374a51a27(a)z28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... | BURT wrote: | > If there is even greater gravity inside the theory says you reach | > light speed at the event horizon then gravity would propel energy | > faster than light. Even reaching light speed is a violation of SR | > motion laws. So black holes are disproved by violating the motion law | > of Einstein. | | Interesting. Can you provide the physics equations that show | the inequality? | 1/2 [ tau(0,0,0,t) + tau(0,0,0,t+x'/(c+v)+x'/(c-v))] = tau(x',0,0, t+ x'/(c-v)) http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/figures/img22.gif 2AB/(t'A-tA) = c http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/figures/img7.gif A = (0,0,0) B = (x',0,0) Put it all together: 1/2 [ tau(A,t) + tau(A,t+AB/(2AB/(t'A-tA)+v)+AB/(2AB/(t'A-tA)-v))] = tau(B, t+ AB/(2AB/(t'A-tA)-v)) = the most famous inequality in theoretical physics. The only problem is you wrote "physics equation" when it's "theoretical physics inequality". But then, you have as much idea of what you are babbling about as that cretin Einstein did.
From: Raymond Yohros on 8 Aug 2010 17:42
On Aug 4, 3:29 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Aug 4, 10:16 am, bert <herbertglazie...(a)msn.com> wrote: > > > On Aug 3, 11:13 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Kip Thorne's excuse would mean there is no more gravity for energy > > > once inside the event horizon. Otherwise the gravity inside would > > > propel energy faster than light in the black hole. > > > > The only way to make black holes work by Kip Thorne's excuse to get > > > rid of gravity and its action on energy when inside the black hole > > > itself. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > Get it right Inside a black hole nothing can overcome the gravity > > force. (no escape velosity).That is why it can't be seen TreBert > > If there is even greater gravity inside the theory says you reach > light speed at the event horizon then gravity would propel energy > faster than light. Even reaching light speed is a violation of SR > motion laws. So black holes are disproved by violating the motion law > of Einstein. > > Mitch Raemsch > the matenergy gets bended at the even horizon and then chew up as it falls deeper and deeper, then, at the breaking barrier stage, everything turns into electromagnetic waves at c r.y |