From: Grant on
On Sun, 2 May 2010 14:14:33 -0700, "William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer(a)comcast.net> wrote:

>As I mentioned in the OP, when the monitor is malfunctioning, I have
>swapped the DVI cables between the monitors. When doing so, the
>malfunctioning monitor continues to malfunction while the other
>monitor (the one which has never malfunctioned) continues to function
>properly. So from this, I believe the computer & video card are
>functioning properly. Am I making a valid assessment here?
>
>Yes, of course -- that's Troubleshooting 101.
>
>What's going on is that the video information is being lost, and the pixel
>"twist" is being forced all the way one way, then all the way the other way.
>As to the cause...
>
I like the 'crazy LCD controller' idea -- bad connection somewhere making
it cycle through the brightness range -- doesn't seem like faulty components
could make an LCD smoothly cycle brightness how you describe?

So I think the culprit is the controller PCB in the LCD, unless bad power
is provoking the thing to craziness?

Grant.
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From: Grant on
On Sun, 02 May 2010 14:10:47 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 2 May 2010 07:22:40 -0700 (PDT), saber850 <saber850(a)yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Both monitors are a Samsung SyncMaster 204B.
>
>Thank you for supplying the maker and model number.
>
>This might be of interest:
><http://pavel.kirkovsky.com/2009/03/samsung-syncmaster-204b-repair/>
><http://www.djhome.net/tips/samsungsyncmaster204T.htm>
>I've seen both problems on the bench with similar Samsung models.
>
>My usual method is to replace *ALL* the large value electrolytic
>capacitors. The labour is less to do it at one time, than to spend
>any time finding which one or two is the culprit. Make sure you buy
>105C or 125C replacement caps as the 85c variety don't last. Larger
>values and voltage ratings are fine, but watch out for package sizes
>and lead spacing.

Agree with you, there's usually room to squeeze in higher voltage caps,
and, with switching regs you could drop capacitance a little bit[1] and
not harm the circuit performance -- ripple current rating of the caps
is more important than the capacitance value of replacement cap.

[1] Got some 390/63 and 820/25 105'C low ESR caps I'd use instead of
470/35 and 1000/16 in a repair.

Grant.
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From: Pete Bertini on

"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote in message
news:qvprt5hb6kgboh7hs40153neg5nismmipk(a)4ax.com...
> On Sun, 2 May 2010 07:22:40 -0700 (PDT), saber850 <saber850(a)yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Both monitors are a Samsung SyncMaster 204B.
>
> Thank you for supplying the maker and model number.
>
> This might be of interest:
> <http://pavel.kirkovsky.com/2009/03/samsung-syncmaster-204b-repair/>
> <http://www.djhome.net/tips/samsungsyncmaster204T.htm>
> I've seen both problems on the bench with similar Samsung models.
>
> My usual method is to replace *ALL* the large value electrolytic
> capacitors. The labour is less to do it at one time, than to spend
> any time finding which one or two is the culprit. Make sure you buy
> 105C or 125C replacement caps as the 85c variety don't last. Larger
> values and voltage ratings are fine, but watch out for package sizes
> and lead spacing.
>
> --
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> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
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> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

I was thinking capacitor too. In the old analog days one would
searching for a leaky coupling cap in the video amplifiers :)


From: saber850 on
On May 2, 11:46 am, "David" <some...(a)somewhere.com> wrote:
> >> >saber850 <saber...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:2468c376-1884-4039-af3a-55c41cedb3c6(a)k29g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> Hi,
>
> >> >> My LCD desktop monitor has been exhibiting a problem
> >> >> for over 1 year.
> >> >> It is out of warranty and I would like to fix it.
>
> >> >> The problem is that the monitor displays the picture,
> >> >> and then
> >> >> gradually fades to white, and then gradually fades to
> >> >> black.
>
> >> >> The monitor does not exhibit the problem all the time.
> >> >> It comes and
> >> >> goes. I do not have a procedure which triggers the
> >> >> problem; it seems
> >> >> to be random. Sometimes it will behave this way for
> >> >> only a few
> >> >> minutes, while other times it will behave like this
> >> >> for weeks.
>
> >> >> I do not do anything to trigger the problem, other
> >> >> than have the
> >> >> monitor powered on.
>
> >> >> I have two of these monitors. I bought both monitors
> >> >> at the same time.
> >> >> Both monitors are connected to the same video card
> >> >> (nVidia) via a DVI
> >> >> connection.  Only one of the monitors exhibits the
> >> >> problem--the other
> >> >> continues to function properly.  When the monitor
> >> >> exhibits the
> >> >> problem, I can swap the DVI cables and the other
> >> >> monitor continues to
> >> >> function properly. So I do not believe the problem is
> >> >> my video card or
> >> >> computer.
>
> >> >> I do not know of a method to get the monitor out of
> >> >> this problem
> >> >> state. I've tried cycling the power to the monitor,
> >> >> and I've tried
> >> >> rebooting the computer. Neither method fixes the
> >> >> problem. The only
> >> >> thing I can do is wait for it to fix itself. But
> >> >> eventually, it
> >> >> malfunctions again.
>
> >> >> A video of the problem occurring is available here:
> >> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7YpFZVRjcE
>
> >> >> Best regards,
> >> >> Nick
>
> Does this monitor have buttons on the front to control
> brightness? Could one of those be stuck or shorted?
>
> David

It has buttons on the front, but not to control the brightness or
contrast directly--those are available a couple levels deep in the
menu. When the problem returns, I will try adjusting the brightness &
contrast via the monitor to see what happens.
From: Mike Tomlinson on
In article <2468c376-1884-4039-af3a-55c41cedb3c6(a)k29g2000yqh.googlegroup
s.com>, saber850 <saber850(a)yahoo.com> writes

>The problem is that the monitor displays the picture, and then
>gradually fades to white, and then gradually fades to black.

Erk. That video you put on Youtube is kinda creepy! Are you sure it's
not demonic possession?

I don't think it's a backlight problem. It looks more like a contrast
issue. I have a similar Samsung monitor (SyncMaster 2343 widescreen)
with touch controls and It looks like yours has those too. In your
situation, the first thing I would do is whip the back off and
disconnect the touch control board from the main board and see if the
problem stops. I'm wondering if a "button" is stuck.

Then I'd probably move to gently heating some of the chips, particularly
those on the back of the LCD panel, with a hairdryer to see if the fault
is temperature-related.

I know you say you want to try and fix it, but if it's a panel fault,
the monitor's fit only for scrap.

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