LOGICAL PECULIARITIES OF LIFE AFTER DEATH
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From: David DeLaney on 5 May 2010 16:27 nuny(a)bid.nes <alien8752(a)gmail.com> wrote: >"bigflet...(a)gmail.com" <bigflet...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> This is integrated with what could be called the G.H. Dillema. > > I know what a di lemma is, what's a dill ema? but i will bet a pip ack emma there isn't any three-l dilllemmma >> As I said, there is no possibility of detecting the nature of >> consciousness by looking at the effects > > That's one of *your* unjustified beliefs. I do not share it. Clearly what is needed is a high-energy consciousness collider. Oh wait, we're POSTING TO IT. Dave
From: George Hammond on 8 May 2010 04:25
On Wed, 5 May 2010 02:18:22 -0700 (PDT), "Dr. HotSalt" <alien8752(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >On May 4, 3:44�pm, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote: > <snip> > >> � �So, I will study your last post for two or three days and >> then make a reply on ARK and SPR. >> Look for me then...... George Hammond > > Will do. > > > Mark L. Fergerson > > AKA Dr. HotSalt > > [Hammond] Hi Mark Fergerson, Sorry I am late but Rome wasn't built in a day. I've been working on the life after death (LAD) problem for several years and a solution to it is still not in site, However here are my latest thoughts. Research into LAD might be likened to astronomy around the time Herschel first discovered "nebulae". At that time they thought our galaxy was the entire universe and didn't even realize that the nebulae were other galaxies and that the universe was vastly larger than they thought. Anyway, I want to mention that I think I first ran into you about 11 years ago not 20 years ago as I said in my previous post. Time passes quickly but not that quickly! To summarize the theory this far, the idea that the recently discovered cytoskeleton computer might provide a "resurrection body" in a "virtual reality" is a very sound idea. Stuart Hameroff himself even agrees that it's a credible idea. But the devil is in the details, and it turns out that one of the details now presents itself as a major obstacle. As we know the brain growth deficit, BGD, is the origin of the phenomenon of God. Because of the BGD we suffer reduced mental speed and the world looks larger than it actually is. This is called a "curvature of space-time" by the physicists and I have discovered proven and published that it actually is. Okay so far so good. But now we are hypothesizing that when we die (neuronal flatline) our consciousness transfers by default to the cytoskeleton computer system, "microtubule consciousness" so-called. And we are hoping or expecting that in this cytoskeleton-world that we will have a beatified body andsee the Beatific Vision (e.g. flat space-time). Okay, still so far so good. But here is the major problem with that idea: The BGG is caused by a shortage of cells in the brain. In fact the entire body growth-deficit is caused by a shortage of cells in the body. Okay, the cytoskeleton is contained in each one of those cells, therefore, if there is a shortage of cells there must be an identical shortage of microtubules!!! This would immediately tell us that a "perfect virtual body" cannot exist in the cytoskeleton system for the same reason that a perfect real body does not exist in the cellular system. The simple argument tells us that the much vaunted Biblical "Beatified spiritual afterlife body" cannot possibly exist in the cytoskeleton. And so far, I have found no plausible solution to get around this argument. Simply put, in order to obtain "eternal life, you simply have to obtain a "perfect body".... that is a virtual body WITHOUT a brain growth deficit. And according to the above reasoning, such a thing as de facto impossible. Okay, that's as far as I've gotten; I've hit what is apparently the proverbial brick wall. However, hope springs eternal! And here's a possible argument around the situation. I call it the "ASYMPTOTIC" argument. In the first place cells only divide when they reach a certain size so when you stop growing what this means is that the cells simply stop dividing. There is no such thing as "undersized cells". The growth deficit is simply caused by a reduced NUMBER of cells, not a reduced size of cells. What this means for instance is that if you have a BGG there aren't as many nerve cells in your brain as there are supposed to be. This means that the vast dendritic system in your brain is simply 10, 20 or 30% short of the size it should be. This means that you can't see, feel, taste or hear true reality. It means that you do not have a "beatific" body. On the other hand, simply because the physical body has a deficit in the number of bricks of which is built, does not mean that the MIND has a brick wall at the end of it where it simply stops. No, despite the finite number of bricks (cells ) in the body... the MIND it is well known "tapers off" (asymptotically) continuously from a fully conscious state to a distinctly unconscious state. And I have the notion that the very end of that tapering off distance of the mind, it asymptotically reaches the threshold of the beatific vision, and hence the "beatific body". How it does this with a finite shortage of brain cells I'm not quite sure. But my intuition tells me that the body "adapts" in various and sundry ways, such as growing additional dendritic spines or adding more connections etc. etc. and likewise at every single level of the biological structure in order to do just that... i.e. "reach" or just barely create, at a very subconscious level, a"beatified body". This biological fact I believe is substantiated by the fact that we observe the existence of an unconscious mind at the neuronal level. We know for a fact that consciousness does not reach an abrupt end in that it keeps on going down but becomes more and more unconscious and inaccessible. SO, even though the brick pile of cells reaches a sudden end, consciousness itself I believe DOES NOT! Okay, so this proposal still keeps us in the LAD game. The theory now is, that at the the farthest depths of the "cytoskeleton mind" or "microtubule mind" there actually exists the "Spiritual Body" (perfect body) of Biblical fame and fable.... and it is this perfect spiritual body which ultimately is the Observer, the final Observer, of the afterlife death dream which is downloaded into and floods the entire cytoskeleton of the body a fraction of a second after neuronal death. And as I have explained before this download occurs at microwave frequencies but it is observed by The dearly departed "observer" at the standard neuronal speed i.e. it is seen by the "dead observer" in proper time, to use another relativistic term. Okay Mark.... that's it for now, and as they say I am working on this theory at least half the time every day on and off, and will keep you posted. Meanwhile, don't knock yourself out pounding out a long reply on the keyboard. I'm using voice recognition and it's easy to put a lot of words on a page without much effort. 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