From: Jamie on
Ian Bell wrote:
> What do you guys use for labelling prototypes? I am thinking
> particularly of control panels (19 in rack mounting for example)
> containing pots, toggle and rotary switched all of which need labelling.
> So far I have looked at iron on T shirt printer paper, special
> transparent overhead projector type film with built in adhesive and
> contacted a company that does custom stick-on vinyl decals. I need
> something I can design easily myself on a PC and either produce myself
> or have produced at reasonable cost. Any one of more of the above might
> work but before I take the plunge I thought I would ask what others use???
>
> Cheers
>
> Ian
For small cabinets I print out via laser in mirror form, the drill
locations, knock out locations, control labeling, logo's etc. all on a
single sheet of either ink jet photo paper or clay paper and iron it
on the surface.. when removed via wetting it, 99% of it comes out and
I touch up what I don't like.. then I spray it with a clear coat to
protect it..

P.S.
The cabinets I used either have a base color already on it that the
toner sticks to nicely or we spray it with a thin clear coat first..

It does give a shinny look if that isn't abjectable.

Jamie..

From: Peter Bennett on
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 16:51:26 +0100, Ian Bell <ruffrecords(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:

>What do you guys use for labelling prototypes? I am thinking
>particularly of control panels (19 in rack mounting for example)
>containing pots, toggle and rotary switched all of which need labelling.
>So far I have looked at iron on T shirt printer paper, special
>transparent overhead projector type film with built in adhesive and
>contacted a company that does custom stick-on vinyl decals. I need
>something I can design easily myself on a PC and either produce myself
>or have produced at reasonable cost. Any one of more of the above might
>work but before I take the plunge I thought I would ask what others use???
>
>Cheers
>
>Ian


How many units, and how much of a prototype? Does it have to look
professional?

I've used a Brother label maker for one-of's. You can get label tapes
in various colour combinations, including white-on-clear and
black-on-clear. The clear tape allows the panel colour to show, and
the fact you've used individual tape labels doesn't show too badly.

Another poster suggested Front Panel Express - I've used them many
times, for both single panels and small quantities. FPE machines and
engraves panels from their pre-anodized stock, or from
customer-supplied panels.

I've also printed a mirror image of the legend on overhead
transparency film, and used a spray adhesive (3M-77, I think) to
fasten it to the panel.

--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca
From: Charlie E. on
On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 14:47:19 -0400, "Martin Riddle"
<martin_rid(a)verizon.net> wrote:

>
>
>"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
>message news:vl7436de1hnp42vtgssfvor6va15d8ee2a(a)4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 10:15:22 -0700 (PDT), mpm <mpmillard(a)aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Jul 5, 10:51 am, Ian Bell <ruffreco...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> What do you guys use for labelling prototypes? I am thinking
>>>> particularly of control panels (19 in rack mounting for example)
>>>> containing pots, toggle and rotary switched all of which need
>>>> labelling.
>>>> So far I have looked at iron on T shirt printer paper, special
>>>> transparent overhead projector type film with built in adhesive and
>>>> contacted a company that does custom stick-on vinyl decals. I need
>>>> something I can design easily myself on a PC and either produce
>>>> myself
>>>> or have produced at reasonable cost. Any one of more of the above
>>>> might
>>>> work but before I take the plunge I thought I would ask what others
>>>> use???
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Ian
>>>
>>>Silkscreening. Even if a one-off.
>>>Cheap, easy, professional-looking results.
>>>
>>>The setup I use (Speedball, I think), has reusable screens, so once
>>>you get going, you can change as often as your mind does.
>>>The only major investment for me was the light stand, though you could
>>>probably DIY roll your own.
>>>The lightbulb is about $10, and at least here, available locally.
>>>5000K, I think. A Photo-Flood #12, IIRC.
>>>
>>>Good luck.
>>>- mpm
>>
>> We make nice looking labels with an inkjet color printer and some sort
>> of adhesive paper stuff. They're good enough to use for product
>> photos, or to put on eval loaners for customers to play with. For
>> production, we just send the same file to a label company.
>>
>> These photos used fake labels:
>>
>> http://www.highlandtechnology.com/DSS/T750DS.html
>>
>> http://www.highlandtechnology.com/DSS/P730DS.html
>>
>> You can even include little translucent windows for LED indications.
>> They are a little denser on the paper protos than the real polycarb
>> labels.
>>
>> John
>>
>
>You can make labels with some Avery stuff, they have a clear label thats
>good for covering the top of a finished Avery label.
>
>Cheers
>
>
I usually print on the 8x11 clear Avery lables using my color ink jet.
If you let the colors set, you get good life out of it. If paranoid,
the old technique was to print reversed on an overhead transparency
film, and then glue the colored side down. Lets you do a proto for
less than $10!

For a full size rack, you might need to split the graphics, and have a
seam somewhere...

I have also printed all the labels on smaller avery type clear lables,
and then xacto cut them out and attached just over the appropo button
or LED.

Charlie
From: Baron on
Ian Bell Inscribed thus:

> What do you guys use for labelling prototypes? I am thinking
> particularly of control panels (19 in rack mounting for example)
> containing pots, toggle and rotary switched all of which need
> labelling. So far I have looked at iron on T shirt printer paper,
> special transparent overhead projector type film with built in
> adhesive and contacted a company that does custom stick-on vinyl
> decals. I need something I can design easily myself on a PC and either
> produce myself or have produced at reasonable cost. Any one of more of
> the above might work but before I take the plunge I thought I would
> ask what others use???
>
> Cheers
>
> Ian

A local company engraves plastic panels at very low cost. Many
different colours with white, red, green or black lettering. The
plastic is made from three layers and they remove the top layer by
engraving it with a high speed router type bit. Thing like pots,
switches and connectors can be mounted directly to the plastic panel if
required.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.
From: StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt on
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 12:57:15 -0700, Charlie E. <edmondson(a)ieee.org>
wrote:

>On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 14:47:19 -0400, "Martin Riddle"
><martin_rid(a)verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
>>message news:vl7436de1hnp42vtgssfvor6va15d8ee2a(a)4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 10:15:22 -0700 (PDT), mpm <mpmillard(a)aol.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Jul 5, 10:51 am, Ian Bell <ruffreco...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> What do you guys use for labelling prototypes? I am thinking
>>>>> particularly of control panels (19 in rack mounting for example)
>>>>> containing pots, toggle and rotary switched all of which need
>>>>> labelling.
>>>>> So far I have looked at iron on T shirt printer paper, special
>>>>> transparent overhead projector type film with built in adhesive and
>>>>> contacted a company that does custom stick-on vinyl decals. I need
>>>>> something I can design easily myself on a PC and either produce
>>>>> myself
>>>>> or have produced at reasonable cost. Any one of more of the above
>>>>> might
>>>>> work but before I take the plunge I thought I would ask what others
>>>>> use???
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>>Silkscreening. Even if a one-off.
>>>>Cheap, easy, professional-looking results.
>>>>
>>>>The setup I use (Speedball, I think), has reusable screens, so once
>>>>you get going, you can change as often as your mind does.
>>>>The only major investment for me was the light stand, though you could
>>>>probably DIY roll your own.
>>>>The lightbulb is about $10, and at least here, available locally.
>>>>5000K, I think. A Photo-Flood #12, IIRC.
>>>>
>>>>Good luck.
>>>>- mpm
>>>
>>> We make nice looking labels with an inkjet color printer and some sort
>>> of adhesive paper stuff. They're good enough to use for product
>>> photos, or to put on eval loaners for customers to play with. For
>>> production, we just send the same file to a label company.
>>>
>>> These photos used fake labels:
>>>
>>> http://www.highlandtechnology.com/DSS/T750DS.html
>>>
>>> http://www.highlandtechnology.com/DSS/P730DS.html
>>>
>>> You can even include little translucent windows for LED indications.
>>> They are a little denser on the paper protos than the real polycarb
>>> labels.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>
>>You can make labels with some Avery stuff, they have a clear label thats
>>good for covering the top of a finished Avery label.
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>
>I usually print on the 8x11 clear Avery lables using my color ink jet.
>If you let the colors set, you get good life out of it. If paranoid,
>the old technique was to print reversed on an overhead transparency
>film, and then glue the colored side down. Lets you do a proto for
>less than $10!
>
>For a full size rack, you might need to split the graphics, and have a
>seam somewhere...
>
>I have also printed all the labels on smaller avery type clear lables,
>and then xacto cut them out and attached just over the appropo button
>or LED.
>
>Charlie

Printing on clear stock does not protect the printed media.

Print on white label stock and COVER it with a clear over-sheet.

Labels with direct exposed print, especially from a laser or ink jet,
do not usually last very long. Clear laminate on top of such labels
makes them appear more professional, and retains the integrity of the
print without smears or other undesirable happenstance.
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