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From: zonda on 4 Mar 2010 06:10
On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:28:50 GMT, Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com>
wrote:

>"Whenever we talk passwords, we always preach the same thing: Use strong,
>difficult-to-remember passwords, and different passwords for every site.
>Easy to say, extremely difficult to do through sheer willpower. I've
>tried many password-remembering systems, and this is what I've stuck
>with.
>
>To paraphrase photographer Chase Jarvis, the best password manager is the
>one you have with you. Of all the password management utilities out
>there, I consider LastPass the most elegant compromise between
>convenience and security, and if you're not using it already, I recommend
>you start. It's mostly free, plugs into nearly any browser or smartphone,
>is KeePass compatible, and just works.
>
>Why LastPass?
>Why not just use KeePass for all my passwords and be done with it? It's
>secure, open-source, extensible, and geeks like Gina have sworn by it as
>a password solution. Oh, and many readers love it, too. If I only used
>Firefox, KeeFox would provide a pretty good browser integration, and I
>could use Dropbox as a universal KeePass syncer.
>
>I like KeePass. KeePass is friendly and locks down pretty tight. But when
>it comes to filling in web passwords, I want the path of least
>resistance-and I want to convert my friends and family into more secure
>practices, too. LastPass offers a few advantages over KeePass:
>
>Universal: KeePass has a nice collection of extensions and plug-ins, but
>they're all over the place when it comes to support, updating, and
>platforms. LastPass offers extensions for Firefox, Internet Explorer,
>Chrome, and Safari on Windows, Mac, and Linux. There are a few gaps
>(Opera, mainly), but they're covered in large part by free auto-filling
>bookmarklets (covered below) and desktop, portable USB apps, and mobile
>software, offered to LastPass' premium subscribers.
>
>Simple: LastPass has a multitude of options, settings, tools, and other
>knobs to twiddle, just like KeePass. If all you want, though, is a better
>kind of universal password manager that remembers your log-ins, simply
>install the browser extension, log into LastPass, and let it do its
>thing. It automatically prompts you to save passwords and form
>data-though you can turn that off-and fills out username/password fields,
>with an easy switch to another login name.

What if LP goes bust or goes off web? You are dead in the water.

Why would you trust a third party with your passwords?

LP may be more efficient in filling out web based forms, but KeePass
keeps me in control.
From: Phil on 4 Mar 2010 06:53
On 04/03/2010 11:46, Bear Bottoms wrote:
> Bear Bottoms<bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9D313A6A857ECbearbottoms1gmaicom(a)69.16.185.247:
>
>> zonda conka wrote in news:j25vo5lm8dqgmahtv280pvh850op58l7s4(a)4ax.com:
>>
>>> What if LP goes bust or goes off web? You are dead in the water.
>>
>> What if KeePass goes payware. You move on.
>>
>
> I'll add that if LP goes away, I wouldn't move to KeePass after using LP, I
> would find something at least comparable to LP even if I had to pay for it.
> LP is that good.
>
I use "skipper" in Firefox, and Opera's own password manager in Opera (I
dont use IE) and very impressed with skipper. Less so with Opera's own.
I would want something to have the password ready to put in with one
click, not go hunting for it like most.
From: za kAT on 4 Mar 2010 07:31
On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:44:33 GMT, Bear Bottoms wrote:

> zonda conka wrote in news:j25vo5lm8dqgmahtv280pvh850op58l7s4(a)4ax.com:
>
>> What if LP goes bust or goes off web? You are dead in the water.
>
> What if KeePass goes payware. You move on.

Not a great counter BB. *Surprise* Why bother to reply if that's the best
you can come up with?

Keepass is open source, and even if it did go payware you wouldn't have to
move on, or not at least for a very long time. You have the exe.

Now try again.

--
zakAT(a)pooh.the.cat
From: Phil on 4 Mar 2010 07:39
On 04/03/2010 11:46, Bear Bottoms wrote:
> Bear Bottoms<bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9D313A6A857ECbearbottoms1gmaicom(a)69.16.185.247:
>
>> zonda conka wrote in news:j25vo5lm8dqgmahtv280pvh850op58l7s4(a)4ax.com:
>>
>>> What if LP goes bust or goes off web? You are dead in the water.
>>
>> What if KeePass goes payware. You move on.
>>
>
> I'll add that if LP goes away, I wouldn't move to KeePass after using LP, I
> would find something at least comparable to LP even if I had to pay for it.
> LP is that good.
>


How do you transfer your passwords from the likes of Firefox anyways ?
The help pages aren't very helpful !
From: Lew on 4 Mar 2010 07:42

"za kAT" <zakAT(a)super-secret-IPaddress.invalid> wrote in message
news:hmo96n$ll8$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:44:33 GMT, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>
>> zonda conka wrote in news:j25vo5lm8dqgmahtv280pvh850op58l7s4(a)4ax.com:
>>
>>> What if LP goes bust or goes off web? You are dead in the water.
>>
>> What if KeePass goes payware. You move on.
>
> Not a great counter BB. *Surprise* Why bother to reply if that's the best
> you can come up with?
>
> Keepass is open source, and even if it did go payware you wouldn't have to
> move on, or not at least for a very long time. You have the exe.
>
> Now try again.
>
> --
> zakAT(a)pooh.the.cat

You cant expect the Professor to respond intelligently. His mental condition
pushes him to respond in a less than rational manner. And when he has been
slapped around he gets his mail order bride to post for him.
Im waiting for him to post what I supposedly said about Rising AV. Of course
Ive never said one word about Rising AV.
But in his delusional state he thinks I have.


Lew

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