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From: buenno on 24 Apr 2010 06:07
here we go, the candy factory of relativity makes
huge errors, they hope we cant observe

length expansion not existent, only length contraction

because they cant speed slower than staying still

enough reason do discard their beloved theory!!!

universe expansion just prove that length expansion _do exists_

relativity proved wrong by own theory

good bye
From: Sue... on 24 Apr 2010 08:29
On Apr 24, 6:07 am, buenno <ue38...(a)techemail.com> wrote:
> here we go, the candy factory of relativity makes
> huge errors, they hope we cant observe
>
> length expansion not existent, only length contraction
>
> because they cant speed slower than staying still
>
> enough reason do discard their beloved theory!!!
>
> universe expansion just prove that length expansion _do exists_
>
> relativity proved wrong by own theory
>
> good bye

You are confused with a different theory:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_ether_theory



<< Einstein's relativity principle states that:

All inertial frames are totally equivalent
for the performance of all physical experiments.

In other words, it is impossible to perform a physical
experiment which differentiates in any fundamental sense
between different inertial frames. By definition, Newton's
laws of motion take the same form in all inertial frames.
Einstein generalized[1] this result in his special theory of
relativity by asserting that all laws of physics take the
same form in all inertial frames. >>
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node108.html

[1]<< the four-dimensional space-time continuum of the
theory of relativity, in its most essential formal
properties, shows a pronounced relationship to the
three-dimensional continuum of Euclidean geometrical space.
In order to give due prominence to this relationship,
however, we must replace the usual time co-ordinate t by
an imaginary magnitude

sqrt(-1)

ct proportional to it. Under these conditions, the
natural laws satisfying the demands of the (special)
theory of relativity assume mathematical forms, in which
the time co-ordinate plays exactly the same rôle as
the three space co-ordinates. >>
http://www.bartleby.com/173/17.html

<< where epsilon_0 and mu_0 are physical constants which
can be evaluated by performing two simple experiments
which involve measuring the force of attraction between
two fixed charges and two fixed parallel current carrying
wires. According to the relativity principle, these experiments
must yield the same values for epsilon_0 and mu_0 in all
inertial frames. Thus, the speed of light must be the
same in all inertial frames. >>
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node108.html

Sue...
From: buenno on 25 Apr 2010 05:30
On Apr 24, 2:29 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> On Apr 24, 6:07 am, buenno <ue38...(a)techemail.com> wrote:
>
> > here we go, the candy factory of relativity makes
> > huge errors, they hope we cant observe
>
> > length expansion not existent, only length contraction
>
> > because they cant speed slower than staying still
>
> > enough reason do discard their beloved theory!!!
>
> > universe expansion just prove that length expansion _do exists_
>
> > relativity proved wrong by own theory
>
> > good bye
>
> You are confused with a different theory:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_ether_theory
>
> << Einstein's relativity principle states that:
>
> All inertial frames are totally equivalent
> for the performance of all physical experiments.
>
> In other words, it is impossible to perform a physical
> experiment which differentiates in any fundamental sense
> between different inertial frames. By definition, Newton's
> laws of motion take the same form in all inertial frames.
> Einstein generalized[1] this result in his special theory of
> relativity by asserting that all laws of physics take the
> same form in all inertial frames. >>http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node108.html
>
> [1]<< the four-dimensional space-time continuum of the
> theory of relativity, in its most essential formal
> properties, shows a pronounced relationship to the
> three-dimensional continuum of Euclidean geometrical space.
> In order to give due prominence to this relationship,
> however, we must replace the usual time co-ordinate t by
> an imaginary magnitude
>
> sqrt(-1)
>
> ct proportional to it. Under these conditions, the
> natural laws satisfying the demands of the (special)
> theory of relativity assume mathematical forms, in which
> the time co-ordinate plays exactly the same rôle as
> the three space co-ordinates. >>http://www.bartleby.com/173/17.html
>
> << where epsilon_0 and mu_0 are physical constants which
> can be evaluated by performing two simple experiments
> which involve measuring the force of attraction between
> two fixed charges and two fixed parallel current carrying
> wires. According to the relativity principle, these experiments
> must yield the same values for epsilon_0 and mu_0 in all
> inertial frames. Thus, the speed of light must be the
> same in all inertial frames. >>http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node108.html
>
> Sue...

i wonder what all this has to do with length expansion
From: Inertial on 26 Apr 2010 09:09


"buenno" <ue38l72(a)techemail.com> wrote in message
news:4b5f145c-e4af-4127-8a36-04947cb15a89(a)c20g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> here we go, the candy factory of relativity makes
> huge errors, they hope we cant observe

Nope

> length expansion not existent, only length contraction

Yeup .. if you are referring to a relativistic expansion similar but
opposite to length contraction. Length of things can, of course, expand for
other reasons

> because they cant speed slower than staying still

That's right

> enough reason do discard their beloved theory!!!

Nope .. why on earth would that be a reason?

> universe expansion just prove that length expansion _do exists_

No

> relativity proved wrong by own theory

Nope

> good bye

Unlikely that a troll like you is actually going anywhere


From: BURT on 27 Apr 2010 14:47
On Apr 26, 6:09 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
> "buenno" <ue38...(a)techemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4b5f145c-e4af-4127-8a36-04947cb15a89(a)c20g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > here we go, the candy factory of relativity makes
> > huge errors, they hope we cant observe
>
> Nope
>
> > length expansion not existent, only length contraction
>
> Yeup .. if you are referring to a relativistic expansion similar but
> opposite to length contraction.  Length of things can, of course, expand for
> other reasons
>
> > because they cant speed slower than staying still
>
> That's right
>
> > enough reason do discard their beloved theory!!!
>
> Nope .. why on earth would that be a reason?
>
> > universe expansion just prove that length expansion _do exists_
>
> No
>
> > relativity proved wrong by own theory
>
> Nope
>
> > good bye
>
> Unlikely that a troll like you is actually going anywhere

There are no flat atoms.

Mitch Raemsch
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