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From: Jolly Roger on 24 Nov 2008 15:36
In article <harry-F7560B.12083324112008(a)shawnews.wp.shawcable.net>,
Harry <harry(a)thisgroup.c> wrote:

> > > > > Is it possible to restore Console files accidentally deleted via Time
> > > > > Machine?
> > > >
> > > > You mean the console log files? Log files are rotated periodically by
> > > > Mac OS X automatically so that they don't build up and consume too much
> > > > disk space.
> > >
> > > I think I accidentally deleted this:
> > > Logs 15-00-17-979 - DirectoryService - DirectoryService.server.log
> > > And perhaps another one. There is no crashreporter in there anymore and
> > > I'm pretty sure I remember it there before.
> >
> > How did you accidentally delete that exactly?
>
> Says sheepishly....I was trying to go through things and delete them
> that didn't seem pertinent.

Why, exactly?

> Because of Time Machine I wasn't worried
> about deleting anything...guess that was false confidence. Also I
> thought they would be regenerated instantly when needed but I shouldn't
> have deleted files so high up in the food chain.

This demonstrated habit of changing / deleting items of which you aren't
knowledgeable suggests to me you'd be better off using a
non-administrative account for day-to-day use.

> One thing seems odd though. Under LOG FILES, /Library/Logs,
> HangReporter, Console (and Opera right below it) the dates are grayed
> out. Those are for yesterday (when I deleted some files). Do you often
> see grayed out files in Console? There is 1 for Console and 4 for Opera.

Nope. Probably happening because you deleted the files. Bad idea.

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From: Barry Margolin on 25 Nov 2008 03:00
In article <harry-8BAB3F.02484924112008(a)shawnews.wp.shawcable.net>,
Harry <harry(a)thisgroup.c> wrote:

> In article <barmar-80D731.02283824112008(a)mara100-84.onlink.net>,
> Barry Margolin <barmar(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> > In article <harry-0DB523.00050624112008(a)shawnews.wp.shawcable.net>,
> > Harry <harry(a)thisgroup.c> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Is it possible to restore Console files accidentally deleted via Time
> > > > > Machine?
> > > >
> > > > You mean the console log files? Log files are rotated periodically by
> > > > Mac OS X automatically so that they don't build up and consume too much
> > > > disk space.
> > >
> > > I think I accidentally deleted this:
> > > Logs 15-00-17-979 - DirectoryService - DirectoryService.server.log
> > > And perhaps another one. There is no crashreporter in there anymore and
> > > I'm pretty sure I remember it there before.
> > >
> > > > What makes you think Time Machine deleted them?
> > >
> > > Not TM. Me. Accidentally. Now I need to restore them from TM if
> > > possible.
> > >
> > > > What are you looking for, exactly?
> > >
> > > Logs 15-00-17-979 - DirectoryService - DirectoryService.server.log
> > > Its in the Trash but I can't empty the trash completely. Its in use
> > > somewhere. And I can't Undo the delete because its been too long.
> >
> > IF it's in the Trash, just drag it back where it came from.
>
> Does anybody know where it goes? But there are other files missing as
> well I think. I think I just need to restore Console. Somehow.

Console is just a viewing application. The log files are not part of
it. If you deleted a plain-text file, you wouldn't expect reinstalling
TextEdit to recover it, would you?

The locations of the files are displayed in Console's sidebar. It shows
log files in ~/Library/Logs (these are logs for user applications),
/Library/Logs (these are logs for OS X system activity) and /var/log
(these are traditional Unix log files).

What problem are you trying to solve by restoring the log files? Old
log files are not necessary for system operation, they're just for your
perusal if you're trying to troubleshoot problems. The system will
create new log files as needed.

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From: Harry on 25 Nov 2008 12:53
In article <barmar-DB5734.03004025112008(a)mara100-84.onlink.net>,
Barry Margolin <barmar(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> In article <harry-8BAB3F.02484924112008(a)shawnews.wp.shawcable.net>,
> Harry <harry(a)thisgroup.c> wrote:
>
> > In article <barmar-80D731.02283824112008(a)mara100-84.onlink.net>,
> > Barry Margolin <barmar(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <harry-0DB523.00050624112008(a)shawnews.wp.shawcable.net>,
> > > Harry <harry(a)thisgroup.c> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > Is it possible to restore Console files accidentally deleted via
> > > > > > Time
> > > > > > Machine?
> > > > >
> > > > > You mean the console log files? Log files are rotated periodically by
> > > > > Mac OS X automatically so that they don't build up and consume too
> > > > > much
> > > > > disk space.
> > > >
> > > > I think I accidentally deleted this:
> > > > Logs 15-00-17-979 - DirectoryService - DirectoryService.server.log
> > > > And perhaps another one. There is no crashreporter in there anymore
> > > > and
> > > > I'm pretty sure I remember it there before.
> > > >
> > > > > What makes you think Time Machine deleted them?
> > > >
> > > > Not TM. Me. Accidentally. Now I need to restore them from TM if
> > > > possible.
> > > >
> > > > > What are you looking for, exactly?
> > > >
> > > > Logs 15-00-17-979 - DirectoryService - DirectoryService.server.log
> > > > Its in the Trash but I can't empty the trash completely. Its in use
> > > > somewhere. And I can't Undo the delete because its been too long.
> > >
> > > IF it's in the Trash, just drag it back where it came from.
> >
> > Does anybody know where it goes? But there are other files missing as
> > well I think. I think I just need to restore Console. Somehow.
>
> Console is just a viewing application. The log files are not part of
> it. If you deleted a plain-text file, you wouldn't expect reinstalling
> TextEdit to recover it, would you?
>
> The locations of the files are displayed in Console's sidebar. It shows
> log files in ~/Library/Logs (these are logs for user applications),
> /Library/Logs (these are logs for OS X system activity) and /var/log
> (these are traditional Unix log files).
>
> What problem are you trying to solve by restoring the log files? Old
> log files are not necessary for system operation, they're just for your
> perusal if you're trying to troubleshoot problems. The system will
> create new log files as needed.

Thanks for the little tutorial. Now things are making more sense.
Some files are grayed out. I don't know if this is normal.
From: Jolly Roger on 25 Nov 2008 12:59
In article <harry-E064F8.11533025112008(a)shawnews.wp.shawcable.net>,
Harry <harry(a)thisgroup.c> wrote:

> Thanks for the little tutorial. Now things are making more sense.
> Some files are grayed out. I don't know if this is normal.

Again, that's likely because you deleted those files. The operating
system should re-create them if and when it is needed.

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From: Barry Margolin on 25 Nov 2008 19:28
In article <harry-E064F8.11533025112008(a)shawnews.wp.shawcable.net>,
Harry <harry(a)thisgroup.c> wrote:

> Thanks for the little tutorial. Now things are making more sense.
> Some files are grayed out. I don't know if this is normal.

Those are files you don't have permission to read, which happens if
you're using a non-admin account.

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Arlington, MA
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