Light Can Produce Non-Relativistic Observations.
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From: eon on 29 May 2010 15:34 On May 29, 9:24 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 29, 12:19 pm, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 29, 9:11 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On May 29, 11:59 am, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 29, 8:46 pm, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > A basic understanding of radio information signals & wave > > > > > amplification is required. > > > > > not for you seemingly > > > > > > ------- > > > > > > The Relativistic Condition of Simultaneity: > > > > > > Light & fluid waves moving at the same low frequency can be observed > > > > > to depart & arrive simultaneously at the same locations. > > > > > what fluid waves !? > > > > > what LF ? > > > > > > Conclusion: > > > > > > #1. Light (EM-waves), moving or shifting to, lower frequencies will > > > > > proportionally experience less Relativistic effects and provide less > > > > > Relativistically affected observations such as length contraction and > > > > > time dilation. > > > > > how LF would you go? > > > > > tiil the wave stay still, then yes you are right > > > > > > #2. And logically, light's speed (meaning light waves traveling or > > > > > no, the crests of the waves only > > > > > > shifting to lower frequencies) will no longer be constant. > > > > > what is the speed of standing wave light? > > > > Light moves through the space frame at C. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > no, light itself does not moves until > > you move, > > > then you may put a speed c to it- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > No. > You can move behind light while it inches ahead. You can get ahead of > light and leave it behind in a motion black hole > > In either case your speed and light's is nearly the same and light > appears to move only by inches more than you through space. > > Mitch Raemsch > > Mitch Raemsch you dont understand relativity tells that space gets contracted so it is space flowing through light, not light through in space even many hardcore relativists does not realize this simple fact
From: BURT on 29 May 2010 15:46 On May 29, 12:34 pm, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote: > On May 29, 9:24 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 29, 12:19 pm, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 29, 9:11 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 29, 11:59 am, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 29, 8:46 pm, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > A basic understanding of radio information signals & wave > > > > > > amplification is required. > > > > > > not for you seemingly > > > > > > > ------- > > > > > > > The Relativistic Condition of Simultaneity: > > > > > > > Light & fluid waves moving at the same low frequency can be observed > > > > > > to depart & arrive simultaneously at the same locations. > > > > > > what fluid waves !? > > > > > > what LF ? > > > > > > > Conclusion: > > > > > > > #1. Light (EM-waves), moving or shifting to, lower frequencies will > > > > > > proportionally experience less Relativistic effects and provide less > > > > > > Relativistically affected observations such as length contraction and > > > > > > time dilation. > > > > > > how LF would you go? > > > > > > tiil the wave stay still, then yes you are right > > > > > > > #2. And logically, light's speed (meaning light waves traveling or > > > > > > no, the crests of the waves only > > > > > > > shifting to lower frequencies) will no longer be constant. > > > > > > what is the speed of standing wave light? > > > > > Light moves through the space frame at C. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > no, light itself does not moves until > > > you move, > > > > then you may put a speed c to it- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > No. > > You can move behind light while it inches ahead. You can get ahead of > > light and leave it behind in a motion black hole > > > In either case your speed and light's is nearly the same and light > > appears to move only by inches more than you through space. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > Mitch Raemsch > > you dont understand > > relativity tells that space gets contracted It is wrong. We have never measured it. It is just an asumption. But the atomic form would need to go flat. And this flat atom is a wrong physic. We can conclude there is no contraction. Mitch Raemsch > > so it is space flowing through light, not > light through in space > > even many hardcore relativists does not realize > this simple fact- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: eon on 29 May 2010 15:56 On May 29, 9:46 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 29, 12:34 pm, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 29, 9:24 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On May 29, 12:19 pm, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 29, 9:11 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 29, 11:59 am, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 29, 8:46 pm, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > A basic understanding of radio information signals & wave > > > > > > > amplification is required. > > > > > > > not for you seemingly > > > > > > > > ------- > > > > > > > > The Relativistic Condition of Simultaneity: > > > > > > > > Light & fluid waves moving at the same low frequency can be observed > > > > > > > to depart & arrive simultaneously at the same locations. > > > > > > > what fluid waves !? > > > > > > > what LF ? > > > > > > > > Conclusion: > > > > > > > > #1. Light (EM-waves), moving or shifting to, lower frequencies will > > > > > > > proportionally experience less Relativistic effects and provide less > > > > > > > Relativistically affected observations such as length contraction and > > > > > > > time dilation. > > > > > > > how LF would you go? > > > > > > > tiil the wave stay still, then yes you are right > > > > > > > > #2. And logically, light's speed (meaning light waves traveling or > > > > > > > no, the crests of the waves only > > > > > > > > shifting to lower frequencies) will no longer be constant. > > > > > > > what is the speed of standing wave light? > > > > > > Light moves through the space frame at C. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > no, light itself does not moves until > > > > you move, > > > > > then you may put a speed c to it- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > No. > > > You can move behind light while it inches ahead. You can get ahead of > > > light and leave it behind in a motion black hole > > > > In either case your speed and light's is nearly the same and light > > > appears to move only by inches more than you through space. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > you dont understand > > > relativity tells that space gets contracted > > It is wrong. We have never measured it. It is just an asumption. But > the atomic form would need to go flat. And this flat atom is a wrong > physic. We can conclude there is no contraction. > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > so it is space flowing through light, not > > light through in space > > > even many hardcore relativists does not realize > > this simple fact- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - okay, you win again
From: BURT on 29 May 2010 16:32 On May 29, 12:56 pm, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote: > On May 29, 9:46 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 29, 12:34 pm, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 29, 9:24 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 29, 12:19 pm, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 29, 9:11 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 29, 11:59 am, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On May 29, 8:46 pm, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > A basic understanding of radio information signals & wave > > > > > > > > amplification is required. > > > > > > > > not for you seemingly > > > > > > > > > ------- > > > > > > > > > The Relativistic Condition of Simultaneity: > > > > > > > > > Light & fluid waves moving at the same low frequency can be observed > > > > > > > > to depart & arrive simultaneously at the same locations. > > > > > > > > what fluid waves !? > > > > > > > > what LF ? > > > > > > > > > Conclusion: > > > > > > > > > #1. Light (EM-waves), moving or shifting to, lower frequencies will > > > > > > > > proportionally experience less Relativistic effects and provide less > > > > > > > > Relativistically affected observations such as length contraction and > > > > > > > > time dilation. > > > > > > > > how LF would you go? > > > > > > > > tiil the wave stay still, then yes you are right > > > > > > > > > #2. And logically, light's speed (meaning light waves traveling or > > > > > > > > no, the crests of the waves only > > > > > > > > > shifting to lower frequencies) will no longer be constant. > > > > > > > > what is the speed of standing wave light? > > > > > > > Light moves through the space frame at C. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > no, light itself does not moves until > > > > > you move, > > > > > > then you may put a speed c to it- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > No. > > > > You can move behind light while it inches ahead. You can get ahead of > > > > light and leave it behind in a motion black hole > > > > > In either case your speed and light's is nearly the same and light > > > > appears to move only by inches more than you through space. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > you dont understand > > > > relativity tells that space gets contracted > > > It is wrong. We have never measured it. It is just an asumption. But > > the atomic form would need to go flat. And this flat atom is a wrong > > physic. We can conclude there is no contraction. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > so it is space flowing through light, not > > > light through in space > > > > even many hardcore relativists does not realize > > > this simple fact- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > okay, you win again- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - If you begin to move relativity shows up as the apparent flow or motion around you in the opposite direction of energy movement and this apparent motion shrinks in the distance. Everything has absolute speed in space. Light and matter co- move. In this sense you can catch up to light or leave it behind. Mitch Raemsch
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