From: Joerg on
PeterD wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:43:04 -0500, "Tim Williams"
> <tmoranwms(a)charter.net> wrote:
>
>> "PeterD" <peter2(a)hipson.net> wrote in message
>> news:6gk7r55k7jb9sd3c0h39l15inbvj5mhhml(a)4ax.com...
>>> OK, I'm in NH (USA). Nominal voltage is supposed to be 240 volts. I'm
>>> reading 233 to 234 volts, so it is a bit low right now. Evening time,
>>> so higher demand I'm sure.
>> Ironically, I measure 122.4V in the labs here at school, *and* at home at my
>> Bench.
>>
>> Tim
>
> I suppose I should clarify I was measuring the 240 power input to my
> big Eaton UPS... (and not the power outlets.)
>
> and 122.4 (or 244.8) isn't bad at all. I've found that generally in
> the US the regulation is rather good.


Out here only after some serious complaining. Light bulbs burning out,
bursting, and so on. Measured 127V, with a spike up from there at night
around 10:00pm. Called utility. "It's all normal" ... "But I measured it
with a digital storage oscilloscope and I can send you the plots" ...
<some swallowing> ... "Ok, we'll be out there latest by 8:00am tomorrow".

Now it's 121.5V.

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From: Jim Thompson on
On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 09:01:56 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>PeterD wrote:
>> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:43:04 -0500, "Tim Williams"
>> <tmoranwms(a)charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "PeterD" <peter2(a)hipson.net> wrote in message
>>> news:6gk7r55k7jb9sd3c0h39l15inbvj5mhhml(a)4ax.com...
>>>> OK, I'm in NH (USA). Nominal voltage is supposed to be 240 volts. I'm
>>>> reading 233 to 234 volts, so it is a bit low right now. Evening time,
>>>> so higher demand I'm sure.
>>> Ironically, I measure 122.4V in the labs here at school, *and* at home at my
>>> Bench.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>
>> I suppose I should clarify I was measuring the 240 power input to my
>> big Eaton UPS... (and not the power outlets.)
>>
>> and 122.4 (or 244.8) isn't bad at all. I've found that generally in
>> the US the regulation is rather good.
>
>
>Out here only after some serious complaining. Light bulbs burning out,
>bursting, and so on. Measured 127V, with a spike up from there at night
>around 10:00pm. Called utility. "It's all normal" ... "But I measured it
>with a digital storage oscilloscope and I can send you the plots" ...
><some swallowing> ... "Ok, we'll be out there latest by 8:00am tomorrow".
>
>Now it's 121.5V.

I buy 130V-rated bulbs. With all the A/C load surges here in AZ, it's
a necessity.

...Jim Thompson
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From: Paul Hovnanian P.E. on
Joerg wrote:

> PeterD wrote:
>> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:43:04 -0500, "Tim Williams"
>> <tmoranwms(a)charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "PeterD" <peter2(a)hipson.net> wrote in message
>>> news:6gk7r55k7jb9sd3c0h39l15inbvj5mhhml(a)4ax.com...
>>>> OK, I'm in NH (USA). Nominal voltage is supposed to be 240 volts. I'm
>>>> reading 233 to 234 volts, so it is a bit low right now. Evening time,
>>>> so higher demand I'm sure.
>>> Ironically, I measure 122.4V in the labs here at school, *and* at home
>>> at my Bench.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>
>> I suppose I should clarify I was measuring the 240 power input to my
>> big Eaton UPS... (and not the power outlets.)
>>
>> and 122.4 (or 244.8) isn't bad at all. I've found that generally in
>> the US the regulation is rather good.
>
>
> Out here only after some serious complaining. Light bulbs burning out,
> bursting, and so on. Measured 127V, with a spike up from there at night
> around 10:00pm. Called utility. "It's all normal" ... "But I measured it
> with a digital storage oscilloscope and I can send you the plots" ...
> <some swallowing> ... "Ok, we'll be out there latest by 8:00am tomorrow".
>
> Now it's 121.5V.
>

Same thing happened to me. But but it was going into the 130s. And down to
100V on the other leg. At the service entrance. So I called them and told
them to come out and fix their neutral.

"Blah, blah. Call your own electrician, blah, blah."

So I told them that I have a plot of the voltage, I used to be a
distribution engineer....for their company. And I was familiar with the
telephone service rep's standard response sheet. They fixed* it that night.

*With an underground service, they hook up a 'balancing' autotransformer to
the meter base until they can get the backhoe out in a day or two.

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From: Jim Thompson on
On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 10:23:16 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
<paul(a)hovnanian.com> wrote:

>Joerg wrote:
>
>> PeterD wrote:
>>> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:43:04 -0500, "Tim Williams"
>>> <tmoranwms(a)charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "PeterD" <peter2(a)hipson.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:6gk7r55k7jb9sd3c0h39l15inbvj5mhhml(a)4ax.com...
>>>>> OK, I'm in NH (USA). Nominal voltage is supposed to be 240 volts. I'm
>>>>> reading 233 to 234 volts, so it is a bit low right now. Evening time,
>>>>> so higher demand I'm sure.
>>>> Ironically, I measure 122.4V in the labs here at school, *and* at home
>>>> at my Bench.
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>
>>> I suppose I should clarify I was measuring the 240 power input to my
>>> big Eaton UPS... (and not the power outlets.)
>>>
>>> and 122.4 (or 244.8) isn't bad at all. I've found that generally in
>>> the US the regulation is rather good.
>>
>>
>> Out here only after some serious complaining. Light bulbs burning out,
>> bursting, and so on. Measured 127V, with a spike up from there at night
>> around 10:00pm. Called utility. "It's all normal" ... "But I measured it
>> with a digital storage oscilloscope and I can send you the plots" ...
>> <some swallowing> ... "Ok, we'll be out there latest by 8:00am tomorrow".
>>
>> Now it's 121.5V.
>>
>
>Same thing happened to me. But but it was going into the 130s. And down to
>100V on the other leg. At the service entrance. So I called them and told
>them to come out and fix their neutral.
>
>"Blah, blah. Call your own electrician, blah, blah."
>
>So I told them that I have a plot of the voltage, I used to be a
>distribution engineer....for their company. And I was familiar with the
>telephone service rep's standard response sheet. They fixed* it that night.
>
>*With an underground service, they hook up a 'balancing' autotransformer to
>the meter base until they can get the backhoe out in a day or two.

I had that TWICE happen at the old house (over a 25 year period).

First event, furnace blower (120V) would come on, lights in the house
would _brighten_ :-(

Called APS, got the typical dumb broad response.

Read her the riot act, they came out and attached a temporary neutral
(above ground) until they could dig up the old one.

Second event, oldest daughter, house-sitting while we were in
Australia, reports she was getting a shock from the shower head :-(
I measured 45VAC between shower head and drain... grounded only via
earth. When I later rebuilt that shower I put a big strap between
shower plumbing and drain fixture.

...Jim Thompson
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